Monday, July 22, 2019

Turkey To Talk Refugee Return with Damascus? Possible Turkish Operation in Syria’s East?

Basically Turkey wants the Usrael/France backed PKK/YPG away from their border. Or Cavusoglu is saying that Turkey is ‘determined to carry out an operation east of the Euphrates.....” 

For all intents and purposes, per the Astana agreement, there is a buffer zone existing in Idlib- agreed to between Turkey, Iran and Russia. There are the areas along the Syrian border held by Turkey, enabled by Russia, in the area of Afrin as well as al Bab.
The Turkish top diplomat also pointed out that Washington "still hasn’t taken certain steps under a roadmap on Syria’s Manbij."
The US never fulfilled it’s Manbij promise- this is going back to the Obama administration-

2016: Tukey: US to Keep Manbij Promise? 3 Step Road Map: Assad Stays. Cooperating with Iran & More  
Çavusoglu said: "The U.S. and the President Barack Obama personally promised that PYD members in the SDF would be withdrawn to the east of the Euphrates River. Now the U.S. must keep its promise, and we expect them to. We are maintaining our communications regarding this matter."
 So, it’s difficult for me to understand why Turkey would expect the US to agree to getting the Kurdish proxies away from the Turkish/Syrian border east of the Euphrates and keeping them away.

"Ankara is ready to carry out another military operation in Syria if necessary, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu told the TGRT TV channel on Monday. 
"We are determined to carry out an operation east of the Euphrates River if efforts to set up a security zone in Syria fail and we continue to face various threats," he said.

At the same time, Cavusoglu was hopeful that progress in the establishment of a security zone in northern Syria would be achieved during talks with a US delegation that had arrived to Turkey. The delegation is led by US Special Representative on Syria James Jeffrey.

The Turkish top diplomat also pointed out that Washington "still hasn’t taken certain steps under a roadmap on Syria’s Manbij."

Discussions about setting up a buffer zone in Syria began back in 2013. At the time, the possibility of declaring a no fly zone was under consideration, as well as plans to set up a security zone where refugees could take shelter. Ankara keeps bringing the matter up but each time these plans fail to get implemented for various reasons."
Turkey to Engage With Syrian Leadership on Refugee Issue
An adviser to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Yasin Aktay, said that the Turkish government would hold consultations and negotiations with the Syrian leadership in the city of Istanbul to find a solution to the refugee crisis.
This comes at a time when Istanbul is witnessing the expulsion of Syrian refugees to Syria who held temporary protection cards from other states, as well as some figures holding cards issued in Istanbul.
In statements carried by Anadolu agency on Sunday, Aktay said that, “the opposition party in every country on earth considered a leftist party always stands with refugee rights—but in Turkey, the opposition parties are against refugees and have incited people in a populist manner against them. In the end, we are a democratic country that complies with the will of its people.”
 Yup, AKP is under pressure from the 'leftist' opposition that won the election in Istanbul who have been playing the divisive identity politics card.  Sowing the seeds of discontent. Perfect for destabilization.

Recall my writing about the opposition in Istanbul that looks to have some serious western backing?
"Erdogan has said that his government will take new measures with Syrians in Turkey that cover three issues—encouraging return, deporting criminals, and deducting taxes in the hospitals.
He added in a meeting of the ruling Justice and Development Party on Jul. 13, 2019, that, “we will have new steps in this respect: We will take the necessary steps to encourage return, we will expel those who have committed crimes, and we will take taxes for medical treatment which they receive.”
 The displaced Syrians have been in Turkey for many years now.  While there has been some tension, it has not been as bad as what has been ongoing since the so called "leftist" party won Istanbul. And for those who haven't been paying attention the leftist government is very PKK friendly. 

Left vs Right is all in your/our mind.
It's just an elite created, wrongly held, false belief that came to be through mass perception management.


  1. Hello Peter Chamberlain

    I did leave a comment at your place "therearenosunglasses"

    but it's not showing that I can see.
    In case it goes missing see below

    "Hi Peter: surprised to see such an old post here at your place. Thanks for putting it up. :)

    I did respond to your comment at my place, but, I'll drag it here

    excerpted from your comment:

    peter chamberlinJuly 20, 2019 at 4:01 PM
    Hi Penny,
    "The war on terror was never about terrorism, but terrorism was the primary mode of combat used by all was a planned global aggression to block development of hydrocarbons by anyone else but us or our friends. Terrorism was the primary combat strategy used by US-trained proxy forces in battles and locations intended control all oil and gas pipelines and transit routes."


    "I would agree with that statement while adding in that while, yes, terrorism is employed to block/control/deny hydrocarbon development to all but the most connected "right" players- It seems to me and I've made a series of posts about this topic.. as the control/block/deny allow development for friendlies they also remake the region/redraw borders so the friendlies are in place to further enable the hydro carbon distribution to be in the rights hands"

    btw: the US has passed a 'bipartisan bill' that will remake the order of the eastern Mediterranean- this pertains to the LNG

  2. Hi Penny

    Always like to keep up with your insights. I'm really starting to understand this insiduous 'identity politics' cancer. Once implanted and nurtured truly dangerous and almost irreversible. Trump seems to be very good at it almost with a passion. Ambivalent to the seeds of chaos he is cultivating. Yet his slogan is MAGA. How pathetic? Whether its the old adage of karma or not, this destabalisation tactic so successfully employed with their nefarious colour revolutions looks like it will culminate in the break up of the dark empire itself among other factors.

    "Recall my writing about the opposition in Istanbul that looks to have some serious western backing?"

    Can you add the link for this please.

  3. Hi Abdullah:
    I'll do the best I can to relink the older posts
    meanwhile I leave this

    Istanbul challenger gets critical Kurdish backing before revote..

    "Selahattin Demirtas, the former leader of the Peoples’ Democratic party, or HDP, called on Istanbul residents to support Ekrem Imamoglu instead of voting for “enmity -- deepening social polarization further -- or for revenge, hatred or grudges.”

    Writing on Twitter from a high security prison in Turkey’s western Edirne province, Demirtas said he believes “Mr. Imamoglu’s statements should be supported.”

    Unsurprising the win by Mr Peace, love and understanding as endorsed by Demirtas "support Ekrem Imamoglu instead of voting for “enmity -- deepening social polarization further -- or for revenge, hatred or grudges.”

    has resulted in polorization, hatred and grudges and that's how identity politics works

    The vast majority of Kurds in Turkey are, to my understanding, conservative religious individuals who give a surprising amount of support to AKP.

    However Dermitas's green light is significant in that this party was created and is a identity politics party- going way back I reported here that it's a pro kurdish aka pkk backed party So it's a separatist party - with a very marxist leaning like Ocalan- then it further pushes every other identity politics meme out there- women's rights- gay rights- undoubtedly transgender rights- Identity politics serves only to divide-which is why it's employed

    Further to this Demertis is a creature of the west's "human rights" ideology

    "He is one of the founders of the Human Rights Foundation and Amnesty International’s Turkey branch."

    Rising to prominence during the Gezi park protests.

    dubbed the kurdish obama

  4. Istanbul's mayor targeting Syrian refugees:

    "Authorities in Istanbul set a four-week deadline on Monday for Syrians living without approval in Turkey’s largest city to return to provinces where they are registered or face forced removal to those regions."

    Istanbul Mayor says Turkey gov badly managed the Syrian refugees

    "The new Mayor of Istanbul, Ekrem Imamoglu, has said the country's policy towards refugees has been mishandled.

    More than 3.5 million Syrian refugees are now living in Turkey and hundreds of thousands are living in Istanbul, putting a strain on infrastructure and community relations.

    He told Hartalk's Zeinab Badawi: "It is not only Istanbul. There are some parts of Turkey where the refugees outnumber the actual residents. No country in the world would accept this and nor should they.

    "It is not natural and the issue of refugees was badly handled and people became unhappy."

    The issue was thought to be a factor in Mr Imamoglu's victory which was seen as a major blow to President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's AK party and a rebuke to the government."

    As I'd mentioned the refugees have been present for years and years- there have been difficulties but since the PKK endorsed mayor won Istanbul the situation has worsened

    "Mr. Imamoglu’s Republican People’s Party has repeatedly criticized President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s Syria policy and argued that the Syrian refugees are straining the country’s social and economic infrastructure and must return home"

    The new mayor has embarked on a crackdown of Arabic signage in Istanbul..

    Putting this here for the record-

    1. Very much appreciate the information. Thanks

  5. Hi Penny: This video was published on July 20, so thought it might be possible you haven't yet seen it:


    Interview with the Director of Al Sqeilbiyyeh National Hospital, Dr Issam Hawsheh - discussing the effects of the illegal US/EU economic sanctions, the #WhiteHelmet frauds and the daily terrorist attacks from the armed groups in Idlib and Hama countryside.

    1. Thanks Yaya; Haven't seen it and will definitely be listening to it today! :)