Tuesday, October 27, 2020

Iran Prepares Plan For Sustainable Soloution to Nagorno Karabakh Conflict- Putin, Erdogan and Their Foreign Minsisters Talk

Recall my wholehearted agreement with Bhadrakumar?

Btw: Putin and Erdogan have been exchanging views

Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov and Turkey’s Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu discussed the situation in Nagorno-Karabakh during a phone call on Tuesday, the Russian ministry said in a statement.

They also discussed the situation in Syria and Libya, it added.

 The idea of an Astana 2.0 as probable working solution could help settle this issue?

An Astana 2.0 if you like?

 Daily Sabah

Iran has prepared a proposal for a permanent solution to the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, Iranian top diplomat said Tuesday.

Foreign Minister Javad Zarif told state television that his deputy, Seyed Abbas Araghchi, will visit Baku and Yerevan in coming days to present the plan to Azerbaijani and Armenian authorities.

Armenia must respect the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan, according to Zarif, who said the conflict must be resolved through peaceful diplomatic means.

Araghchi is scheduled to visit Baku, Moscow, Yerevan and Ankara to promote the Iranian initiative, said Foreign Ministry spokesman Saeed Khatibzadeh, according to Iranian official news agency IRNA.


Speaking in his meeting with the Governor General of East Azarbaijan province in Tabriz on Tuesday, Seyyed Abbas Araghchi said that security of frontiersmen is very important for the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Turning to his trip to the countries of Republic of Azerbaijan, Russia, Armenia and Turkey, Araghchi added, “In this trip, I am carrying the initiative of the Islamic Republic of Iran to resolve the war erupted between two neighboring counties of Azerbaijan and Armenia.”

He expressed his hope that peace and tranquility would prevail in the region with the cooperation and collaboration of all influential countries in the region.

Governor General of East Azarbaijan province Mohammad Reza Pour-Mohammadi, for his part, pointed to his correspondences with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs with regards to the security of borders and added, “Republic of Azerbaijan and Armenia are Iran’s neighbors. With respecting to the territorial integrity of the two countries of Azerbaijan and Armenia, we are in favor of a peaceful solution to Nagorno-Karabakh conflict and country’s diplomatic apparatus will certainly take necessary steps in this regard.”

From earlier 



  1. Here some info by John Helmer that Armenia is on the loosing end and the reasons:

    "Armenia has lost the October war with Azerbaijan because of Armenian failures in battlefield intelligence, obsolete defences, and the political miscalculations of Prime Minister Nicol Pashinyan (lead image). His only allies now are the mountains and the weather...

    The Moscow assessment blames the military defeat of the Armenians on the ground to Pashinyan’s anti-Russian strategy since he took power in May 2018. That was an operation, he told the US press at the time, which had “no geopolitical context to our movement, our velvet revolution....

    All this was accompanied by internal anti-Russian rhetoric, multiplied by national arrogance…
    Moreover, over the last six months, in the General Staff of Armenia has been mass dismissal of officers who were trained in Moscow.”

    There is much more in the article, especially the fact that Azerbaijan army was trained both with Moscow's and Turkeys help. So, Russia is not one sidedly engaged in the conflict, although it has a defense agreement with Armenia, which however Pashinyan seems to have shown not much interest in turning his attentions more to the EU and NATO. The treaty does not oblige Russia to help in the case of conflict, but leaves it to the discretion of the RF (https://www.rferl.org/a/Russian_President_Medvedev_To_Visit_Armenia/2131915.html)

    1. Yay! A thoughtful comment.

      It looks as if Azerbaijan is advancing in retrieving their territory. That's how I'm understanding what is occurring on the ground (as a distant observer)

      I would say that multiple miscalculations on the part of Pashinian were the biggest factors in this latest round of battles and it's outcome

      His biggest miscalculations in my opinion?

      - He assumed Russia would come aboard- they haven't thus far and I don't think they will because Armenia's leadership has been intentionally hostile towards/anti Russia for years now.

      - He didn't understand or accept that Russia had cultivated ties with Azerbaijan. Which make sense because they are in the neighbourhood.

      - He mistook supportive treaties with Armenia as a free pass for NK- they aren't

      I'm aware that the Azerbaijan army has in it's possession Russian weaponry- undoubtedly they were trained to use it by the Russians.

      Azerbaijan has also grown wealthier. It's more secular, which is another reason I don't by the jihadi nonsense.

      -Pashinian also underestimated the support that Azerbaijan's leadership has from it's citizens. That makes a huge difference to this situation.

      That Pashinian would turn his attention to the EU and NATO is a natural, given the fact that he is a creature of their making

      Thanks for the comment and the link.