Friday, January 18, 2019

Putin And Erdogan To Meet Next Week Regarding Syria


Followed by a three way summit with the Astana Partners
 
 Link
MOSCOW: Russian President Vladimir Putin and Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan will hold talks in Moscow next week to discuss Syria in light of the planned withdrawal of U.S. troops, Kremlin aide Yuri Ushakov said on Wednesday.
Erdogan/Putin


Russia also intends to propose holding a three-way summit on Syria in Russia with Iran and Turkey, Ushakov told reporters at a briefing.


From earlier today:

Pt 2: Implicating Turkey with Innuendo & Aspersion- The "safe zone"

"A safe zone can be created by Russia, Turkey and Iran under the auspices of their Astana partnership in agreement with Damascus. To do so it would be required that the US LEAVE.

Therefore Turkey would not and did not benefit from the bombing in Manbij. Because they don't need the US present to enact a 'safe zone'. They have other partners."


Manbij Blast: Implicating Turkey With Innuendo & Aspersion

 But not bothering with any facts or rational analysis. 'Tis the way of propaganda and propagandists in the never ending war for your mind.. I’ve been watching the targeting of Turkey for years now, however, what has been unfolding in slow motion surely shifted into higher gear yesterday.


Pt 2: Implicating Turkey with Innuendo & Aspersion- The "safe zone"

Following up on yesterday's post with a brief observation:

There's a concept being promulgated (made known) by Usrael's Kurds occupying Syria and other questionable sources. It goes like this.... Turkey doesn't want the US to exit Syria because they (Turkey) need the US to create a safe zone-

"Turkey had it done to facilitate its safe zone, which cannot be done without US help."According to Salih Muslim, for one. ( Making it the Usrael Kurd version of events)

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“However it could also be just this, that Turkey had it done to facilitate its safe zone, which cannot be done without US help.”
My response below in bold.
    Turkey does not need the US to facilitate a safe zone
They can work with Russia. In fact they can work within the Astana partnership along with Damascus and make a safe zone. A requirement of that type of planning would be that the US leaves. It’s that straightforward.
The PKK centric version you present… like Salih Muslim does, simply doesn’t make any sense when Turkey has the Astana partners

A safe zone can be created by Russia, Turkey and Iran under the auspices of their Astana partnership in agreement with Damascus. To do so it would be required that the US LEAVE.

Therefore Turkey would not and did not benefit from the bombing in Manbij. Because they don't need the US present to enact a 'safe zone'. They have other partners.

The US was never going to facilitate a safe zone with Turkey- that's spin

The US was never going to withdraw from Syria- that was just spin and lies.

The US was going to do what it needed to do to stay and occupy Syria with an eye to further warfare. With their proxy forces. That's the fact. The withdrawal psyop and subsequent Manbij false flag provided all the pretext the US needed to stay and advance the war agenda. Targeting Turkey.

 "Clearly the US is threatening Turkey- Not a surprise. The US is claiming they'll make a buffer zone in annexed Syrian territory to keep Turkey's border safe. This is grade A rubbish. The US is simply justifying their continued occupation of Syria's territory.
I’m willing to bet Turkey’s going to be blamed. Blaming Turkey fits in with the agenda to target Turkey. It's like blaming Syria for the destabilization kicked off by Usreal.
The US regional remake demands that Turkey's border be made more insecure. With an eye to  worsening the destabilization/balkanization

Let's get over this idea of Turkey being a NATO ally any longer. It just isn't and hasn't been the case for years. The idea of employing Kurdish proxy forces against Iran and Turkey has been written about ad nauseum.

 Relinking two, nearly two year old reports, covering the situation in Manbij:

 Manbij is a problem, from way back, for Turkey. It's also a source of acrimony between Turkey and the US. Along with the coup
The US had made a promise to Turkey that their PKK/YPG terrorists would clear out once they rid the place of ISIS.. But the US had their fingers crossed behind their back and were speaking with forked tongues... because they were NEVER going to ask/make the PKK/YPG terrorists to leave, since, they did not want them to leave - Remaking the region, folks!
 Been talkin’ this talk for years now.  The US made the promise never intending to keep it because they were plotting the coup and didn't plan on it failing

Thursday, January 17, 2019

Manbij Blast: Implicating Turkey With Innuendo & Aspersion

But not bothering with any facts or rational analysis. 'Tis the way of propaganda and propagandists in the never ending war for your mind.. I’ve been watching the targeting of Turkey for years now, however, what has been unfolding in slow motion surely shifted into higher gear yesterday.
 

March 2016: Yes, Willy Loman, It’s about Blamin’ & Framin’ Turkey & Saudi Arabia
I guess the garnering of public support at the “grassroots level” had to begin sometime, somewhere- Scott caught one of these groups in action. I’m sure there are other groups in other places pushing the same nonsense. Blaming Erdogan?  It’s a fashionable thing to do.  Lots of fashion victims around. Especially when a bigger agenda is at play.  Turkey, the nation we know today, simply has to be gotten rid of. Because wrongs have to be righted and other such stupidity that will only lead to massive death, destruction and displacement.
Yes, the masses have been getting their perception management for years and years now. Via the main stream and so called 'alternative media' The thick application of lies/spin and nonsense makes sense when one considers just how big a project has been undertaken? The remaking of a vast swathe of planet earth. For us all to buy into the big project we need to believe lots and lots of disinformation

Yesterday:  ISIS Suicide Bomber in Manbij:The Withdrawal That Wasn’t Taking Place, Still Will Not.

The previous post started out with this statement:
I’m willing to bet Turkey’s going to be blamed. Blaming Turkey fits in with the agenda to target Turkey. It's like blaming Syria for the destabilization kicked off by Usreal.”
Blaming Turkey is the same as blaming any other nation, for whatever reason that can be used to justify the desired attack by Team Usrael. Assad allegedly gunned down protestors who just wanted better government. Libya, well they had a tyrant, that needed to be removed to free Libyans. Ignoring the highest living standard in Africa at that time, of course. You all know the drill?

 That is the reason for what happened in Manbij the other day. To speed up the long desired  and planned for destabilization and regional remake. Any and every other claim regarding the situation in Manbij is superfluous


-This incident was not done to prevent the US troops from withdrawing. Because they weren’t going to withdraw. At all.

-This incident was not done by (so called) ISIS. Why would ISIS undertake such an operation which would only ensure the US was going to stay rather then withdraw? Withdrawing would be more beneficial to ISIS... if you believe the common narrative about ISIS and the withdrawal. Which you shouldn’t of course.


- If you believe that Turkey and the US had an agreement regarding a safe zone in Syria, why would Turkey undertake such an action in Syria? Completely blowing their chance of having that safe zone enabling them to move all the Syrian refugees back into Syria, proper.  While blocking the long planned for Greater Kurdistan aka Israel 2.0

Turkey had no reason to undertake the attack in Manbij because doing so is not at all in their best interest.


Beneficiaries to the attack in Manbij?

The biggest beneficiaries of the attack in Manbij?  The PKK, US proxies, or as I call them the Usreal Kurds Of course. Israel. The US. UK. France etc.,

The safe zone, refugee return and blocking of the Kurdish state/Israel 2.0 is gone. Done in one false flag bombing in Manbij. The withdrawal psyop, which is what this was all along, can now be wrapped up and the next phase moved on to...


Target Turkey:


The Usreal Kurd/regional remakers say:

"The antiterrorist squads of the council detained a cell of seven militants — members of opposition groups that participated in Operation ‘Euphrates Anger' and were supported by Turkey, acting in concert with Turkish intelligence," the statement said."
Entirely predictable

Macron says France will keep troops in Syria, Iraq

“We will remain militarily engaged in the Levant in the international coalition…over the coming year,” he said during a speech to armed forces in the French city of Toulouse.

Macron’s comments came a day after a deadly explosion in the Syrian city of Manbij which left at least 19 people dead, four of them Americans.

Information below jibes with previous information posted here

PKK terror group accused of destroying all evidence following Wednesday’s blast after it cordoned the area
Manbij, which has been under PKK occupation for three years, is tightly controlled by the terror group.

“Anyone who enters the city has to be registered by the PKK’s so-called intelligence and police force. The city’s population has actually been exiled,” pointed Jayran.

“Such an attack at such a central part of the city cannot be carried out without the knowledge and approval of the terror group.”
There is information here at the blog covering the extremely tight control the PKK maintains over Manbij 
 "Clearly the US is threatening Turkey- Not a surprise. The US is claiming they'll make a buffer zone in annexed Syrian territory to keep Turkey's border safe. This is grade A rubbish. The US is simply justifying their continued occupation of Syria's territory.
As reported the other day additional troops and equipment are coming into Syria. We already know the US has set up outposts along the Turkish border.
Occupation and a front line base to launch attacks into Turkey and Iran is THE PLAN."
hattip nomadiceveryman:

Professional Liar Max Blumenthal Tries to Frame Erdogan for Manbij Attack

"Who had control of the area in Manbij when the attack took place? Who has a history of using suicide bombers to get what they want? Who stands to lose the most if the U.S. pulls out of Syria? The Kurds. Yet, Max Blumenthal tried some mental gymnastics to blame Erdogan and Turkey for it on RT."

Syriana Analysis- so called alt media I've found highly suspect, employs Max Blumenthal  "mental gymnastics" as well.

 Innuendo and Aspersion.... It's misleading. By design.

Wednesday, January 16, 2019

ISIS Suicide Bomber in Manbij:The Withdrawal That Wasn’t Taking Place, Still Will Not.

  I’m willing to bet Turkey’s going to be blamed. Blaming Turkey fits in with the agenda to target Turkey. It's like blaming Syria for the destabilization kicked off by Usreal.
The US regional remake demands that Turkey's border be made more insecure. With an eye to  worsening the destabilization/balkanization.

- The ‘offer’ made to Turkey to have that buffer zone?- Off the table 

(Was never going to happen)

- Withdrawal of Troops- Off the table 

(Wasn't going to happen)

- Expansion of war with more troops and equipment- definitely on the table! 

(Always going to happen)

Since ISIS has been, from the get go, a movement that has benefited the Usrael agenda.
It makes sense to me that the sudden appearance of an ISIS suicide bomber is set to benefit the Usrael agenda. The withdrawal that was never going to take place... will still not take place.


Reuters
Four U.S. soldiers were killed and three wounded in a blast on Wednesday in the Syrian town of Manbij, a U.S. official said.
A news site affiliated with Islamic State earlier issued a statement saying an attacker with a suicide vest had targeted a patrol of the U.S.-led coalition operating in Manbij.
Pretty sure the sudden ‘suicide bombing’ which saw US service persons harmed and killed will end all talk of withdrawal. Though the withdrawal was never going to take place. I can’t state and restate that enough. 
You’ll notice the media reports are running the withdrawal claim and the attack news together in the same paragraph- So you will associate the two events and understand that the withdrawal that was never going to happen, is definitely still not going to happen.
Aspen Daily:
A number of U.S. service members were killed in an explosion while conducting a routine patrol in Syria on Wednesday, the U.S. military said, an attack that came less than a month after U.S. President Donald Trump announced his intention to withdraw troops from the war torn country.

The Islamic State group claimed responsibility for the rare
(nearly unheard of) morning attack, which local groups said killed 16 people in the U.S.-patrolled town of Manbij.

The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said 16 people were killed including nine civilians and others were wounded in the blast. It added that at least five U.S.-backed Syrian fighters were also among the dead.

The U.S. military released a statement on Twitter that said: "U.S. service members were killed during an explosion while conducting a routine patrol in Syria today. We are still gathering information and will share additional details at a later time."

The rare
(Nearly unheard of ) attack came days after the U.S. began the process of withdrawing from Syria, pulling out equipment from the northeast into neighboring Iraq
 US issues a do not travel advisory in Turkey or near the border with Syria and Iraq
Terrorist groups continue plotting possible attacks in Turkey. Terrorists may attack with little or no warning, targeting tourist locations, transportation hubs, markets/shopping malls, local government facilities, hotels, clubs, restaurants, places of worship, parks, major sporting and cultural events, educational institutions, airports, and other public areas. Terrorists have also previously targeted Western tourists and expatriates for kidnapping and assassination.
The State Department travel advisory also classified areas Near Syrian and Iraq Borders as "Level 4: Do Not Travel."
Do not travel near the Turkey/Syria and Turkey/Iraq borders due to the continued threat of civil war and attacks by terrorist groups. Terrorist attacks, including suicide bombings, ambushes, car bomb detonations, and improvised explosive devices, as well as kidnappings for ransom, shootings, roadblocks, and violent demonstrations have occurred in these areas.
hattip nomadiceveryman

As Troops Leave Syria, "ISIS" Kills Serviceman in Rare Attack... hmmm


Tuesday, January 15, 2019

"Safe Zone" In Syria A Ruse to Recreate Iraq's "Safe Zone"?

wikipedia- not perfect but you'll get the idea:

Iraqi no fly zones
"The policy was enforced by U.S., British, and French aircraft patrols until France withdrew in 1998. While the enforcing powers had cited United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 as authorizing the operations, the resolution contains no explicit authorization. The Secretary-General of the UN at the time the resolution was passed, Boutros Boutros-Ghali called the no-fly zones "illegal" in a later interview with John Pilger.[1][2]"
You'll notice Turkey did NOT participate in the no fly zones created in Iraq?

History repeating? 

The offer to Turkey is not genuine.  The US does not care about Turkey's border security concerns:  

Washington Post :

A senior Kurdish official has categorically rejected a “safe zone” that the Turkish president says his troops plan to set up in northern Syria.

Bedran Ciya Kurd says the so-called safe zone would be tantamount to Kurdish occupation but with a new cover. (Notice there is no talk of how the Kurds are occupying 1/3 of Syria?) He spoke to The Associated Press from northern Syria on Tuesday, a few hours after Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his troops will establish a 20-mile- (32-kilometer) wide “safe zone” in northern Syria, and that Turkey would seek logistical and financial assistance from the United States and other allies to create the zone.

Ciya Kurd said the Kurdish administration in northern Syria would accept a “safe zone” only if it us under the auspices of the United Nations with international forces. Alternatively, he said Syrian governments troops were also a possibility.
 If the Usreal Kurds were ever serious about cooperating with the Syrian government they've had years and years to do so. Instead opting to cooperate with the US/France/UK and Israel to steal 1/3 of Syria's territory and cleanse it of her people.

Syrian Observer

The President of the Executive Agency of the Syrian Democratic Council (SDC) said that the recent Kurdish talks with the Syrian regime have “not yielded a result.”
During a meeting between the SDC and tribal sheikhs and notables in the al-Darbasiyeh area in the Hassakeh countryside on Sunday, Ilham Ahmed said that the talks had failed because of the Syrian regime’s insistence on its old policy and imposing its control over the area on the pretext of Syrian unity.

Ahmed said that the Kurdish groups of northeastern Syria opened the door to negotiations with the Syrian regime a number of times “but to no avail.”
How gracious of the Usrael Kurds to negotiate with Damascus for the land they stole. Very big of them. Of course, I'm being facetious.

History repeating?

Related:

4,500 Marines & F-35 Squadron on Standby as US "Mulls" Syrian Exit

Some of this news was covered Friday January 11/19:
"The withdrawal plan, whose details are classified, includes bringing hundreds of additional troops into Syria temporarily to facilitate the pullout

"The USS Kearsarge amphibious assault ship is now in the region and could provide troops and equipment to support the withdrawal."
And Saturday January 12/19:
 Mike Pompeo on Saturday described the American exit as a "tactical change" in military strategy

 Judging by this latest report there are more troops, amphibious ready groups etc., then had been initially reported... as the 'withdrawal psyop' continues on.

US Naval Institute

Two Navy amphibious ready groups and about 4,500 shipboard Marines are on standby in the Middle East to support an American exit from Syria if needed, a defense official confirmed to USNI News late Monday.

The three-ship Kearsarge Amphibious Ready Group with the 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit transited the Suez Canal into the Red Sea over the weekend, while the three ships of the Essex ARG and the 13th MEU are on station just outside the entrance to the Persian Gulf in the North Arabian Sea.
The 13th MEU is deployed with a squadron of Marine F-35B Lighting II Joint Strike Fighters aboard USS Essex (LHD-2), which have been used to strike targets in Afghanistan.

Wasp-class amphibious assault ship USS Essex

Last week The Wall Street Journal reported that, rather than withdraw troops from the bases in Syria immediately, the Pentagon was staging forces at key installations in Kuwait and Iraq that would be needed to pull out forces from the U.S. bases inside the country.
On Friday, The New York Times reported the U.S. had begun to pull out equipment but not personnel from the American bases in Syria.
Related:

Monday, January 14, 2019

Trump Threatens to "Devastate Turkey":Syrian Kurds Frontline to Attack Turkey & Iran

Let's get over this idea of Turkey being a NATO ally any longer. It just isn't and hasn't been the case for years. The idea of employing Kurdish proxy forces against Iran and Turkey has been written about ad nauseum. There cannot possibly be one person who reads here that can claim to be surprised that this 'development' was anything other then THE PLAN. 
I'll relink a brief sampling of posts talking about these unsurprising, totally predictable  developments

Iran:

*July 11/2016: Iran’s Kurds Now Growing Restless?? Kurdish Mercenaries Attack Iranian Gov. Officials
*May 5 2016: Kurds on the Attack in Iran- As Predicted ......
*April 17 2016 : Iran's Forgotten Kurds Step Up the Struggle- So The Media Promotion Begins
*August 07/2015: P5+1 is a distraction. Early Seeds of Iranian destabilization cross the Turkish 

border

Turkey:

*Turkey's Destabilization- Kickin' It Up a Notch? Or Two,Three, Ten Notches??
*2014: Pt.2- Kurd/ ISIS Symbiosis- The impending destruction of Turkey
* Nov. 19/2014:  Kurd/ ISIS Symbiosis - The Impending Destruction of Turkey. 

Clearly the US is threatening Turkey- Not a surprise. The US is claiming they'll make a buffer zone in annexed Syrian territory to keep Turkey's border safe. This is grade A rubbish. The US is simply justifying their continued occupation of Syria's territory.
As reported the other day additional troops and equipment are coming into Syria. We already know the US has set up outposts along the Turkish border.

Occupation and a front line base to launch attacks into Turkey and Iran is THE PLAN.

Link
The United States “will devastate Turkey economically if they hit Kurds,” Trump tweeted.
Trump is the deep state's man
Pompeo told reporters in Riyadh that he assumed Trump meant the United States would levy sanctions on Turkey if they attacked the Kurds but that he didn’t know for certain.

“I assume he’s speaking about those kinds of things, but you would have to ask him,” said Pompeo, who noted that he had not talked to Trump about the tweet.

Why would Pompeo speak to Trump about this tweet?- It's right on message!

Pompeo said U.S. messaging over concerns about Turkish attacks on the Kurds has never changed.
“The administration has been very consistent with respect to our requirement that the Turks not go after the Kurds in ways that are inappropriate,” Pompeo said. “If they are terrorists, we’re all about taking down extremists wherever we find them. I think the president’s comments this morning are consistent with that.”

Trump’s tweet, which preceded the Turkish lira losing about 0.84 percent of its value against the dollar, included a demand that Turkey create a ” 20-mile safe zone.”

Pompeo said U.S. and Turkish diplomats had been negotiating such an arrangement this week, but nothing had been finalized.?

Will Turkey agree to this 'arrangement'Not if it's just a free pass to attack Turkey zone- Which is what it's going to be. Not if it's going to entrench a non ally, alongside another non ally, right at their border. Now more then ever Turkey and Syria are sleeping right in the same bed. Side by side.
“We want to make sure that the folks who fought with us to take down the caliphate and ISIS have security and also that terrorists [in] Syria aren’t able to attack Turkey – those are our twin aims,” he told reporters after meeting with the leaders of Saudi Arabia in Riyadh"
Pompeo is OK with Trump's message

Caveat Emptor Turkish leadership- As you all certainly know....
“Both sides are trying to negotiate the width of a potential safe zone,” said Soner Cagaptay, a Turkey scholar at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. “The idea is that Turkish troops and Ankara-backed forces would move into the rural areas in the safe zone, while the YPG would retain control of some of the Kurdish majority cities. This would be a sharing agreement that might be acceptable to all sides, if the U.S. stands behind it.”

 If the US stands behind it? If the US stands behind it? And they won't. 
They have no intention to keep this so called sharing agreement.
 Despite the presentation. Spin. Lie.

 Syria’s Kurds: The new frontline in confronting Iran and Turkey

"US President Donald J. Trump’s threat to devastate Turkey’s economy if Turkish troops attack Syrian Kurds allied with the United States in the wake of the announced withdrawal of American forces potentially serves his broader goal of letting regional forces fight for common goals like countering Iranian influence in Syria.
Mr. Trump’s threat coupled with a call on Turkey to create a 26-kilometre buffer zone to protect Turkey from a perceived Kurdish threat was designed to pre-empt a Turkish strike against the People’s Protection Units (YPG) that Ankara asserts is part of the outlawed Kurdish Workers Party (PKK)"
You'll notice Michael Rubin is quoted in the above Ekurd article?
“Simply put, as Qatar has become the go-to financier of the Muslim Brotherhood and its more radical offshoot groups around the globe, Turkey has become their armorer,” said Turkey scholar Michael Rubin"

Turkey scholar? Recall Michael Rubin's scholarship in this post?


August 2015: Is Turkey Heading to Partition? American Enterprise Institute
 American Enterprise Institute- Total Neo - Con, everything for Israel & Zionists, think tank. Not really a surprise considering so much of the information that’s been posted here on the subject of the collusion between Israel & Kurds. Remaking the middle east for the benefit of Israel/NATO Including the inevitable terror state creation which will be known as Kurdistan.
Or how about the Turkey 'scholar' in this post? Talking about a coup in Turkey, months before one actually took place? In July of 2016.  What a 'coincidence' right? Oh wait, I'm not a coincidence theorist. Clearly a plan.
So if the Turkish military moves to oust Erdogan and place his inner circle behind bars, could they get away with it?
In the realm of analysis rather than advocacy, the answer is yes."

 Trumps threat to Turkey con't:
Mr. Trump’s threat to devastate the Turkish economy, makes Gulf support for the Kurds more feasible.
The same could be said from a Saudi and UAE perspective for Manbij not only with regard to Turkey but also Iran’s presence in Syria. Frontlines and tactics may be shifting, US and Gulf geopolitical goals have not.

Why just the other day I stated exactly that fact. Tactics may change but the geopolitical goals are still the same- The regional remake is still on. 
Pompeo is informing us all,  straight out, in plain talk,  that the goal is the same.
Only the means/method or way to achieve the goal is changing.
NOTHING MORE.   That tells me the regional remake is still on. 
And most probably we've entered a new phase that requires this 'tactical change' 
All these years later there has been no need for this independent autodidact (self taught) analyst thinker to  deviate from the theory long presented, that we are witnessing the unfolding of a geostrategic regional remake in real time.

Destroy Iraq, Syria, Turkey and Iran. While remaking the region to benefit the US and Israel. While in the bigger picture keeping Russia and China in check.
We have moves and counter moves to block the planned remake.  How will this end?

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