Thursday, May 12, 2011

Strike Two: No UN censure for Syria. Israel whines, to no avail, Syrian/ Russian arms sales to go on

Well, it happened again. Russia has for the second time rejected UN censure for Syria.
This time it was Britain that attempted to get the ball rolling.

Russia on Wednesday rejected calls for a special UN Security Council meeting on Syria to condemn its crackdown on protesters, noting that the opposition was resorting to violence as well.

The comments by the Russian foreign ministry came amid mounting international pressure for the UN Security Council to respond to the crisis, with Britain leading efforts to get a resolution condemning Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his government.

Russia helped block last month's attempt by the Security Council to adopt a statement condemning the violence, and a source in the Russian foreign ministry said Moscow remained firmly opposed to any sanctions.

The Russian official also took the unusual step of criticising the protesters' actions in an apparent hardening of Moscow's position.

An apparent hardening of Moscow's postion? What spin. What crap.

There has been ample evidence the protesters have been violent. Including destruction of all manner of property and attacking others. You know gunmen on motorcycles shooting at soldiers and other people?

"The opposition there (in Syria) was never peaceful to begin with," the Russian official was quoted as saying.

A simple fact.

What does Israel have to say about this state of affairs?

Stop exporting weapons to Syria.


Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee chairman Shaul Mofaz (Kadima) called on Russia on Wednesday to halt weapons exports to Syria until there was a clearer picture of the current events there, Israel Radio reported.

A clearer picture of the current events there?
There is a clear picture. Perfectly clear.
Outside forces are messing around in Syria. The US & Israel, for sure. Likely Saudi Arabia & Jordan at the behest of their masters. Based on all available information that is the only reasonable conclusion that can be drawn. (click the Syria label and read through numerous posts)


Russia's response to Israel exhortations?


The sales will continue.


Russia won't let the balance of forces in the Middle East change, so its arms sales to Syria should not disturb Israel, the chairman of the Federation Council said Wednesday.

"Russia controls the situation in order not to alter the balance of forces in the region," Mironov was quoted by Interfax news agency as saying.


I would take this to mean, since Israel has a massive nuclear arsenal, the arms sales to Syria can continue. Quite frankly, there is no way they could disturb Israel.

Some additional reading here
Call it background. Or supportive information to my many Syria posts.

But the actual character of these demonstrations remains unclear. To what extent are they true popular outpourings? What has been the governing Syrian Socialist Arab Baath Party’s actual response?

Very clear is the fact that U.S. imperialism is trying to use these protests to its own advantage. This has nothing to do with any demands raised by Syrian workers, who are suffering from an austerity plan imposed by the International Monetary Fund in 2006. Michel Chossudovsky wrote on May 3 that among the protests is “an organized insurrection composed of armed gangs” that entered the Syrian town of Dara’a from Jordan. (GlobalResearch.ca) Dara’a is where the protests began.

Meanwhile, the Syrian government-run media is not saying much, while the Western corporate media as well as Al Jazeera have been accused of exaggerating both the protests and the Syrian government repression. Russia Today on April 30 quotes a travel agent living in Syria who says pro-Assad rallies were called “anti-Assad” by Al Jazeera; anti-government protests reported by Al Jazeera and Reuters did not take place; and protest footage from other countries has been attributed to Syria.

While front-page articles give the impression that most of Syria has taken to the streets against Assad, most establishment Middle East pundits admit that the Syrian government, at this point, is supported by most Syrians.



18 comments:

  1. Hi Penny. This follows on perfectly from our previous chats about Syria. No way is Russia going to meekly pass on an ally in the region – and the 2 naval ports in the med.

    The Russians didn’t even butter the pill diplomatically – a straight no. I think it was a nice touch of them to mention the violence from the ‘demonstrators’.

    This is definitely setting up a confrontation between the NATO centred vampires and the BRIC alliance. How predictable. I still feel that the polarisation is artificial and the usual bankster class are behind it.

    As a side note there is a definitive down side in this diplomatic refusal by Russia. If the drive to rule the world cannot hide its ambitions behind the ‘colour of law’ as they did in Libya then it’s over to Plan B.

    That can be a straight forward ‘up yours’ to the international audience along the lines of the idiot Trump recently. Alternatively it will be a high visibility false flag with the patsy de jour getting the blame.

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  2. Hey chuckyman!

    Yes it does follow perfectly on our chat. When they said no the first time, I wondered had it been "the line in the sand"? It appears it may have been.

    You are noting correctly, they didn't sugarcoat it at all.

    Then the response to Israel, was quite interesting...

    The weapons do nothing to upset the balance of power.
    Which they don't, not really, not with Israel's nuclear arsenal.
    But, if Israel will restrain itself in the use of it's nukes it does upset the balance of power.

    I get the impression Russia is almost telling Israel- get lost!

    A confrontation between NATO and Russia anyway is coming with or without Syria.

    I have some more digging to do, but NATO is looking to revive the southern Caucasus battles.
    I have one article bookmarked but I need to find more information.
    (We may want to keep an eye on Georgia, Azerbaijan)

    "I still feel that the polarisation is artificial and the usual bankster class are behind it."

    I understand where you are coming from with this statement. I chose to tread lightly there myself, for the simple reason that while behind the scenes who the hell knows what strings are being pulled?

    But, at the forefront the polarization will result in real suffering, real misery, real poverty and death.

    I also wonder to, how much manipulation is necessary once the private banking system is in place.

    Hoping this can be understood?

    Looking at Syria, with NATO pushing it's destruction and ultimate western control- What choice is Russia left with?

    They want their ports.

    They have poured money into them and worked with Syria cooperatively to gain access.

    They (Russia) want them for obvious geostrategic positioning and usage. So where does this push by NATO leave Russia? They either give up Mediterranean access. Or they fight to keep it.

    No bankers are necessary, if Russia wants the access, they are going to have to do what needs to be done to guarantee that access.

    That said.
    The bankers will profit all way round.
    Unless someone goes nuclear, right off?
    A horrific, short war.

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  3. That’s the danger Penny. The US military has been accustomed to having a superior technological advantage. In any campaign their main limitation would be the industrial capacity of the continental US and the safe supply and delivery of said goods by sea.

    That industrial capacity no longer exists. Sea power based on the aircraft carrier is no longer assured. Most of the US military has been committed for the last 10 years to continuous operations.

    Any military offensive launched by US against either Russia or China will be nuclear from the very start. They have no alternative.

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  4. Well actually there were comments here....

    Chuckyman and I had a nice conversation going and then blogger burped, no blogger barfed and it was all gone.

    Comments seem to be missing, but I am going to see if I can address this issue

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  5. Thankfully the comments are in the e-mail..
    So here we go


    chuckyman has left a new comment on your post "Strike Two: No UN censure for Syria. Israel whines...":

    Hi Penny. This follows on perfectly from our previous chats about Syria. No way is Russia going to meekly pass on an ally in the region – and the 2 naval ports in the med.

    The Russians didn’t even butter the pill diplomatically – a straight no. I think it was a nice touch of them to mention the violence from the ‘demonstrators’.

    This is definitely setting up a confrontation between the NATO centred vampires and the BRIC alliance. How predictable. I still feel that the polarisation is artificial and the usual bankster class are behind it.

    As a side note there is a definitive down side in this diplomatic refusal by Russia. If the drive to rule the world cannot hide its ambitions behind the ‘colour of law’ as they did in Libya then it’s over to Plan B.

    That can be a straight forward ‘up yours’ to the international audience along the lines of the idiot Trump recently. Alternatively it will be a high visibility false flag with the patsy de jour getting the blame.

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  6. To which I replied!

    Hey chuckyman!

    Yes it does follow perfectly on our chat. When they said no the first time, I wondered had it been "the line in the sand"? It appears it may have been.

    You are noting correctly, they didn't sugarcoat it at all.

    Then the response to Israel, was quite interesting...

    The weapons do nothing to upset the balance of power.
    Which they don't, not really, not with Israel's nuclear arsenal.
    But, if Israel will restrain itself in the use of it's nukes it does upset the balance of power.

    I get the impression Russia is almost telling Israel- get lost!

    A confrontation between NATO and Russia anyway is coming with or without Syria.

    I have some more digging to do, but NATO is looking to revive the southern Caucasus battles.
    I have one article bookmarked but I need to find more information.
    (We may want to keep an eye on Georgia, Azerbaijan)


    "I still feel that the polarisation is artificial and the usual bankster class are behind it."

    I understand where you are coming from with this statement. I chose to tread lightly there myself, for the simple reason that while behind the scenes who the hell knows what strings are being pulled?

    But, at the forefront the polarization will result in real suffering, real misery, real poverty and death.

    I also wonder to, how much manipulation is necessary once the private banking system is in place.

    Hoping this can be understood?

    Looking at Syria, with NATO pushing it's destruction and ultimate western control- What choice is Russia left with?

    They want their ports.

    They have poured money into them and worked with Syria cooperatively to gain access.

    They (Russia) want them for obvious geostrategic positioning and usage. So where does this push by NATO leave Russia? They either give up Mediterranean access. Or they fight to keep it.

    No bankers are necessary, if Russia wants the access, they are going to have to do what needs to be done to guarantee that access.

    That said.
    The bankers will profit all way round.
    Unless someone goes nuclear, right off?
    A horrific, short war.

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  7. Then Chuckyman came back with...

    That’s the danger Penny. The US military has been accustomed to having a superior technological advantage. In any campaign their main limitation would be the industrial capacity of the continental US and the safe supply and delivery of said goods by sea.

    That industrial capacity no longer exists. Sea power based on the aircraft carrier is no longer assured. Most of the US military has been committed for the last 10 years to continuous operations.

    Any military offensive launched by US against either Russia or China will be nuclear from the very start. They have no alternative.

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  8. So chuckyman if your about this is what I had hoped to say before all went amok!

    "In any campaign their main limitation would be the industrial capacity of the continental US and the safe supply and delivery of said goods by sea."

    I thought about that and can see where unlike in ww2 this would be a big problem. The US could not even get anything up and running.
    So I can see how nuclear is the only option they have.

    That said how maniacal are they?

    It also brings to mind that saying was it Einstein?

    "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones"

    Is that the type of world these nut jobs want?

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  9. HI PENNY ITS ME ALI NYSOUL..GOOD POST..KEEP UP GOOD WORK..I HAVE FOUND SOEMTHING ON SYRIA,THINK YOU MIGHT WNAT TO SEE THIS... http://thenakedfacts.blogspot.com/2011/05/syria-proof-of-conspiracy.html\
    TAKE CARE..=)

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  10. Russia has for the second time rejected UN censure for Syria

    Russia was also against the UN Security Council resolution to bomb Libya, until something changed their mind.

    This is still being played out.

    Any military offensive launched by US against either Russia or China will be nuclear from the very start. They have no alternative.

    Maybe they do, China could hack into the DOD's computers, which are the eyes and ears of the Pentagon and shut them down.
    W/O all the cyber technology, they'd be up a creek.

    Or they could screw with their satellites.

    As for the posting snafus, Blogger has been having problems the last couple of days.

    I sent in a question on the HELP page asking if they had been hacked and all I got was the standard reply that they werer working on the problem.

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  11. Spot on fascinating bloggin' Ms Pen.
    Thanks for saving the comments too!!
    Yeah Greg, I lost a comment over at your place about the Hannibal Lechter post.
    No biggie.
    Carry on
    wv "facked" or were comments whacked?

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  12. Hey Greg:

    I am not 100 percent sure Russia opposed the Libyan UN vote? I thought they abstained.

    Was talking to chuckyman about this and neither of us could figure out why China didn't oppose completely the attack on Libya.

    China had bigger interests in Libya construction contracts galore, lots of business, all gone now.

    WRT: the possibility of an cyber attack? VS nuclear attack launched by the US?

    I had not entertained that possibility.

    Could china pull that off?

    There is an interesting twist.

    As for blogger.

    I lost comments from the three last posts, and reposted this one myself.
    Also my profile was altered.

    I don't know what the hell happened, but, if blogger was hacked????

    I would wonder why?

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  13. Hey Peter:

    should you stop back in, share a thought.

    I am thinking the Ports are the stumbling block for Russia?

    Anything else?

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  14. nysoulcontrolla!

    thanks for the link I read through and left you a comment!

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  15. Dave McGowan ALERT!!!
    Moondoggie part 14 is up!

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  16. I'm back Penny, as instructed.
    Peter Chamberlin's Therearenosunglasses blog has several recent posts dealing with all the action. I cannot add anything more with regards to details that you and he and Chuckie have not already covered.
    MSM is parroting Israeli claims about current border incident with Lebanon as, your favourite phrase, "distraction" away from the so-called legit protests in Syria. Talk about up is down and black is white.
    As Chuckie says, how predicatable?
    Russia is in cat bird's seat , Israeli's are soiling there trousers(witness shootings today@ Therearenosunglasses and MSM)
    No stumbling blocks for Russian's. Witness Georgia transaction a short while back.They were and still are as serious as cancer .
    Russia sits atop the vast majority of the world's natural resources which are now being developed(oil & gas to name the tip of the iceberg) . THIS puts them in control.
    We witness the death of NATO and Us and Israel. The final spasms are all that is left for us to experience. Kinda like bein' at the mall on a diet pill
    All your talk of nukes doesn't sit right with me maybe because it conjures too many nightmarish scenarios. Anyway, I hope you guys are wrong on that.
    Our MSM stills exercises influence over... even us. I admit to just believeing the exact oposite of what they want us to believe. One day they may tell the truth and i will be left with my pants down but until that day just go in the oposite direction the MSM tries to lead us. :P


    omfg wv spulat (splat like a squished bug)

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  17. Hey Peter!
    funny video, interesting lyrics
    vapid

    Yeah they kicked Georgia to the curb pretty quick, I figured that was a test to gauge the response.
    Pretty sure Russia would have been aware of that.

    As for resources, they got'em and the arsenal to protect them..

    It's a wild ride

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