Wednesday, October 5, 2011

Russia and China: Double Veto at UN- Susan Rice hissy fit

Where to begin with this one?
Warning: were going long today, do take the time to read all despite the length

The West was going to use this last ditch effort at getting a resolution to overthrow the government of Syria.
This has been the goal since they begin fomenting dissent back in March of this year.
See -Western backed Social Media "revolution" coming to Syria
I put this post up March 24/2011 and said "All the hallmarks are there !"
No, I am not psychic.


-Russia and China cast a rare double veto at the U.N. Security Council on Tuesday

-The veto marked a defeat after months of European-led diplomatic efforts to impose sanctions on Damascus (and to destabilize the nation of Syria)


-The vote triggered an angry reaction from Susan E. Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, who walked out of the Security Council meeting in protest.


In fact Susan Rice says the US is "outraged" Britian is freaking out and France says who cares!
Turkey is going to push ahead with sanctions anyway, being firmly placed in the pocket of NATO.

Turkey said it will impose sanctions against its troubled neighbor Syria, despite the collapse of a sanction-resolution
Definitely Related-
Turkey Planning Military Exercises At Syrian Border
Turkish armed forces announced Tuesday (yesterday) it will conduct a week long series of military exercises in a province along the Syrian border.

Some Middle East experts immediately interpreted the announcement as a warning to Damascus.

"Turkey is sending a signal to Syria," said Lale Kemal, a defense expert and Ankara bureau chief with the Turkish newspaper Taraf.

Coincidentally or not

Erdogan also said he planned to visit Syrian refugees living in camps along the Turkish border. That expected visit is likely to coincide with the Turkish military exercises near the border.

ATurkish official told CNN on condition of anonymity that Turkey was considering taking "a series of steps" against the Syrian government.

Of course, the concocted Syrian Transitional Government or National Council, the second one, recently formed in Turkey to overthrow the Assad Government has said the double veto is "truly encouraging violence" and that "Supporting Bashar al-Assad in his militarist and fascist project will not encourage the Syrian people to stick to a peaceful revolution"

Myself, I never noticed any such "peaceful revolution" in Syria.
The activists have been armed and confrontational from the beginning in March.
Attacking people in their home, government buildings, killing soldiers, derailing trains and bombing pipelines. Just to name a few of the so called peaceful activities. Ambassador Ford has been most helpful in all this. As have been so many other nations, previously named in a multitude of posts on the destabilization of Syria.

British Foreign Secretary William Hague said this
"We will redouble our efforts to work with other nations to increase the pressure on the regime wherever we can, and we assure the people of Syria that they will not be forgotten"

Which really means, we are going to send more bombs and guns into Syria, you ain't seen nothing yet! Excerpt from the speech of Syrian ambassador which caused the Condoleeza clone, Susan Rice, to walk out
Syrian Ambassador Bashar Ja'afari-

"Certain states are leading the international campaign to intervene in Syria under the pretext of human rights and protection of civilians. These countries continue to reject the existence of these terrorist groups in Syria, for reasons that are known to all," he said.

"Moreover, these states continue to protect and sponsor the leaders of these terrorist groups who they host in their capitals."

While Ja'afari was speaking, Rice walked out, followed shortly after by British Ambassador Mark Lyall Grant.

They missed the Syrian ambassador's toughest words.

"Prestige is more important than might. The sponsors of this draft resolution lost their prestige and now they have resorted to might and power for they lost the respect of the majority of member states of this organization," the Syrian ambassador said.

"In this conduct, they are undermining international legality and they are leading the whole world into a new colonial era and military adventures that are bound and doomed to failure," he added.



Russia's UN Ambassador, Vitaly Churkin-

"The Russian delegation has exerted all possible efforts since the beginning to reach a positive respond by the Security Council with regard to the events witnessed in Syria….we along with China forged a draft resolution in which we referred to the national sovereignty and the non-interference in Syria's affairs including the military interference, in addition to calling for avoiding any confrontations and holding dialogue to achieve the civil peace and the national interest and to enhance the political and social life in Syria."

" It is unacceptable to threat Syria to impose sanctions on it as it contradicts with solving disputes on the basis of dialogue…our demands on not accepting the military interference were not taken into consideration…We are afraid that this resolution and the statements made by some politicians will lead to conflicts and a wide war in Syria that would affect the stability of the region and the situation in the Middle East."

"We don't accept the acts of violence in Syria and the pressures exerted on the peaceful protestors, yet this tragedy is not only caused by the authorities as the latest events proved that the opposition is extremist and it seeks to be backed by foreign powers to carry out its acts of killing and intimidating the people who cooperate with the Syrian security forces and to attack the universities and schools…We extend our condolences to Syria's Grand Mufti, Ahmad Badre ddine Hassoun," he said.


Digression coming, relevant and necessary!

The condolences offered to Ahmad Badreddine Hassoun. Curious? So was I

The Syrian government on Monday blamed "terrorist" attackers for killing the son of a prominent Sunni Muslim cleric and declared that its forces had seized a large number of weapons near the Turkish border .
(Where the "refugee" camps just happen to be located)

The Mufti's son was killed in an ambush on the road between Idib and Aleppo.
An area where in Syria the "activists" have been quite active. The Mufti declared his son's killers "want Syria to kneel before Zionists and America" I am not going to argue with that.

In an emotional sermon carried live Monday on state television, Grand Mufti Ahmad Badreddine Hassoun, whose 21-year-old son died Sunday in an apparent ambush, lauded Assad. He said the Syrian president was a leader "who wants to guide Syria to victory, put the Syrian people on the path to victory, and give the homeland's sons the opportunity to be proud of their values, religion and Arabism."

Someone is fomenting war between the different religious groups. The mention of the killing of the Mufti's son was clearly a "shot across the bow" in the war of words.

Digression ended- back to Russian UN Ambassador

"The best way to get out of the crisis is to reject the provocations and to hold dialogue among all the Syrian parties…Russia continues its contacts with Damascus and it calls upon the Syrian authorities to be fast in making the changes and to release all the detainees who didn't commit any criminal acts, in addition to holding dialogue with the opposition."

China also called for dialogue

Judging by the over reaction of Susan Rice and the comments by Hague of Britain, things are going to get worse in Syria.


You can bet Britain, France, Israel, Turkey, Jordan the US and all others who have been participating in the destabilization of Syria in order to take out the Assad government are going to keep on, keeping on.

Many have wondered, including myself, if Russia and China were going to cave in to Western interests, as happened with the Libyan resolution. It doesn't look like it.

Will the next move be peacekeepers from China and Russia?

23 comments:

  1. Russians and Chinese realize that there's an explosive domino effect to the situation in Syria that might create an endless wars in the area that can spread to all neighbors of Syria and beyond,if the UN approved a resolution that might be interpreted differently.
    The Libyan factor was important in Russians and Chinese decisions because they felt resoltution regarding Libya was stretched beyond the UN Security Council mandate of 'no-fly zone' and 'taking sides' in the conflict.

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  2. Very good news. It's just a shame they didn't veto the UN action on Libya also.

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  3. Ha, an arse-about Hannibal Smith from the A-Team says, "I love it when a plan falls to pieces!"

    One assumes that the killing of the Mufti's son was a false flag attack intended to have two sides at each other's throats. Happily they seen it all before and promptly turn and point fingers at Israel. Thus the wedge becomes no such thing and instead becomes a double-edged sword shining a light on the creatures of darkness and uniting all against them.

    Hubris is all very well until nemesis pops up. And she always does of course.

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  4. Hey Penny,...If Libya was/is a balls-up, Syria will be the yid's final curtain. The only way they can take out Syria, is to dump the veil of humanitarian concern and get to the business of global dominance through unabashed openly visible military brutality!

    I for one, can't wait.

    Free Palestine and everywhere else the yids are screwing things up as part of their protocols for world domination. With less than 30 million yids on the planet, a war of attrition at such levels of high intensity violence will see an end to the entire mob of mendicant talmudic satanists inside 3 months, Armageddon? BRING, IT, ON!

    Then we can scrape the shit of yiddish khazarians off our boots!

    veritas

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  5. Thanks Penny for staying on this story. And good news that China and Russia didn't cave!

    I like the "hissy fit" in the title - very descriptive of Rice's reaction. :)

    I happened upon this article today and thought you may find it of interest.

    http://presstv.com/detail/202977.html
    "an 18-year old woman has appeared on Syrian state television on Wednesday to deny foreign media reports that she was tortured and killed by security forces.

    The woman, identified as Zainab al-Hosni, said that she run away from home in Homs because she was abused by her brothers, and decided to speak out after seeing a report that she had been mutilated and beheaded."

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  6. anonymous 10:04 am

    I agree the Libyan factor was important in Russia and China's decision.

    It wasn't the only factor, but, one of many

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  7. freethinker

    "It's just a shame they didn't veto the UN action on Libya also."

    I wish they would have, but, maybe they didn't for some reason we are unaware of....

    That said, I also wonder if it would have made a difference?
    Would the NATO nations still have bombed Libya anyway?

    Looking at the Syrian situation, you got Turkey with troops right on the border.
    are they going to attack Syria, claim Syria attacked Turkey, then call in the other NATO nations to assist?

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  8. Nobody

    "One assumes that the killing of the Mufti's son was a false flag attack intended to have two sides at each other's throats."

    Yup, as much as I hate assuming that seems to be sensible thinking.

    Fomenting sectarian violence.
    Hopefully the people of Syria don't fight their neighbours and friends. Don't fall for the divide to conquer.

    "Happily they seen it all before and promptly turn and point fingers at Israel."

    Yeah, well Israel has been all over this one.

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  9. Veritas:


    "The only way they can take out Syria, is to dump the veil of humanitarian concern and get to the business of global dominance through unabashed openly visible military brutality!"

    This is what scares the hell out of me. The realization that, open visible brutal military actions will ensue, along with the possibility of nuclear weapons being used.

    Syria has had me on edge for a while now

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  10. McJ

    You are welcome and thanks for continuing to read along.

    It has occurred to me that some may be getting tired of the Syrian coverage, but, it is important, really important and warrants the coverage.

    Susan Rice makes me ill, and hissy fit, was what she had.
    You look at her and you wonder how can she lie so much, about everything?
    What kind of creepy psycho is she?
    I have read innumerable of her lies on Haiti.
    Really she is sickening.

    As for the story about the 18 year old girl, reminds me of the lesbian syrian blogger......
    You know the one that was actually a man in Britain?

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  11. Hey Penny,..."I wish they would have, but, maybe they didn't for some reason we are unaware of...."

    It all appears to be going the way of the protocols doesn't it? It looks like the yids are tumbling the dominoes. I get the feeling it's a trap, Turkey against Syria? Iran seemingly fickle about the whole Libya deal? China has major payback against the yids of jew york, for selling them worthless derivatives, India bought 2 billion dollars worth of salted bullion off the jew york yids. Russia has been harassed through its back-door - Sth Ossetia, Kosovo, Kirghistan, Kazakhstan and Georgia etc, not only that. Russia is awash in yiddish heroine from Afghanistan.

    There is a shit-load of bad kharma looming for the yids!

    Surely the yids aren't the only game in town?

    It is going to get ugly Pen', which is a terrible shame, however, how else are we to rid this world of these yiddish monsters? If not by a shit-storm aimed at them!

    veritas

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  12. "It has occurred to me that some may be getting tired of the Syrian coverage" -On the contrary, Penny. It seems to have slipped through the cracks as of late, even on the alternative news sites. I'm thinking you're right, at some point it will heat up and things will get very serious.

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  13. I second Blammo- I love your coverage of this, and you always find information that fills in my knowledge gap. I have been watching Libya closely (Viva Gaddafi)and now Syria, as I too, think it is the tip of bigger things to come.

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  14. Turkey is the country to watch now. It is Syria's biggest neighbor and Syria's biggest headache right now.
    Turkey seems to be backing those rebels in Syria by giving them moral,political, and logistical support.
    Erdogan cannot play it both ways.In one hand he's supporting Palestinians,and standing tough against Israel, and on the other hand is he's plotting to distabilize Syria and making threats of possible military conflict with Syria,which will lead to a big war against Israel's biggest enemy in the area which might invite NATO forces to the battlefield,and Israel will be the beneficiary at the end of such conflict.
    How can Turkey help the Arab cause as Erdogan claims by having a military conflict with Syria?!!.
    Something Bibi Netanyahu will be dreaming to see it happening, because that will keep both unfriendly countries to Israel busy fighting each others while Bibi and Israelis leaders are sitting watching this big disaster to both countries unfolding ,at the expense of Palestinian cause, the Syrians, and the Turks themselves.
    It takes a spark to start a war, but it will take decades to end it's painful effects.
    Russians and Chinese are worried about escalation in one of the world's hottest spots.
    But let's not forget that Bush started a war with Tony Blair, without US Security Council approval against Iraq ,and Bush described the UN as 'irrlevant' if he had to make his decision to go to war.

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  15. Veritas

    " It looks like the yids are tumbling the dominoes. I get the feeling it's a trap"


    Veritas can you expand on this?
    Because I am uncertain, who is trapping who?
    Thanks in advance :)

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  16. Hey Blammo!

    Glad I am not sounding like a broken record, just stuck in the groove.

    "I'm thinking you're right, at some point it will heat up and things will get very serious."

    This is why I have covered it so much.

    The Ports at Tartus and Latakia are crucial for shipping, not just for the Russians but for the Chinese.

    As is the Port at Gwadar in Pakistan and people may not realize there is a connection but there is, there is.

    I have also noticed that the US is turning up the heat on Pakistan.

    They are going to go public with the war they have been waging in that nation.

    The Pakistanis and the Syrians are looking at bleak outcomes unless they stick together and toss the usurpers out.

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  17. Thanks Texanna!

    "you always find information that fills in my knowledge gap."

    I try...


    Keep in mind that all the comments help keep this whole thing interesting for one another and for myself!

    Sometimes a comment/er can bring to attention something i missed.
    Another perspective some additional info. Whatever!

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  19. Anonymous 12:45

    "Turkey is the country to watch now. It is Syria's biggest neighbor and Syria's biggest headache right now.
    Turkey seems to be backing those rebels in Syria by giving them moral,political, and logistical support."


    Turkey has been backing the rebels, but, Turkey has not been alone in that.
    Guns and fighters have been coming in through Lebanon and Jordan too.

    "Erdogan cannot play it both ways. In one hand he's supporting Palestinians,and standing tough against Israel"

    Erdogan is exactly "playing" acting, pretending, he no more supports the Palestinian cause then he stands tough against Israel.

    This is grandstanding at it's most blatant.

    "On the other hand is he's plotting to distabilize Syria and making threats of possible military conflict with Syria"

    Of course he is playing the humanitarian card to justify the conflict with Syria.

    The "refugee" camps provide the visuals needed for the ruse, while providing the cover needed for fighters crossing the border into Syria.

    "Which will lead to a big war against Israel's biggest enemy in the area"

    Obviously, Iran.

    "Which might invite NATO forces to the battlefield,and Israel will be the beneficiary at the end of such conflict."

    NATO will be on the ground well before the war progresses that far
    I have an older post indicating that NATO is already moving troops in Turkey.

    "How can Turkey help the Arab cause as Erdogan claims by having a military conflict with Syria?!!"

    They can't and that is not even the intention. That is the cover.

    Nutty-yahoo will use this opportunity to march into Palestine and wipe as many Palestinians off the face of the earth as possible.

    Or Lebanon? Whichever. Maybe both

    "But let's not forget that Bush started a war with Tony Blair, without US Security Council approval against Iraq ,and Bush described the UN as 'irrlevant' "

    I haven't forgot that, in fact, that thought weighs heavily on my mind, but... this is (Obama) a Democrat president (not a Republican) who won the Nobel Peace Prize, I think he will try to make this look as legit as possible.

    We shall see.

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  20. Hey Penny,...You may or may not have seen this, check it out while I formulate my response to your query:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBCuq2bIdIs&feature=player_embedded

    nastrovya,

    veritas

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  21. Hey Veritas

    I did see it.
    It is gruesome.

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  22. I've a nagging doubt about Putin and the Russian elections. The oligarch's challenge collapsed far too easily and our muscular hero got much too smooth a shoo-in for my liking.

    "Would the NATO nations still have bombed Libya anyway?"
    Well we'll see what happens in Syria. I don't think NATO will have the brass-neck to ignore the UNSC - unless something dreadful 'happens' that NATO can use as a casus-belli requiring immediate action without waiting for the UNSC.

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  23. "- unless something dreadful 'happens' that NATO can use as a casus-belli requiring immediate action without waiting for the UNSC."

    yeah, that is as I see it.

    O-bomb-ah will try the legitimate route, mr "peace prize" my ass.

    But,expect a false flag

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