Tuesday, April 24, 2012

The man made global warming agenda: Control. Currency. Profits


So, man made global warming...... You are bad.
You breathe air and emit carbon.
You carbon based life form!
Blah, blah, blah.
I used to be a believer.
But, like all things... once you really start to look into the whole scenario.
It doesn't quite add up.
Anthropogenic global warming is an agenda, bad humans destroying the planet made to pay, which the science has been created to fit.
Like the attack on Iraq. Where the intelligence was created, to fit the agenda.
Like big pharma research, where 'studies'....achieve the desired results to promote pharma intervention.
Nothing new under the sun. Societal manipulation for profits.
War profiteering. Pharmaceutical profiteering. And carbon profiteering.
Yes, that is what AGW is about. Profiteering. Not entirely, but, that is a big part of it.
There is also the control factor.
Global Warming or so we were told, was going to see the world get hotter, deserts expand,  ocean levels rise all due to glaciers melting.
As I type today, I am 'enjoying'  the fourth day of cold, wet snow, freezing rain at the end of April.
I have seen snow in early April, 26 years ago, that was freakish.  But never this late in April.
Now the global warming crowd is trying to convince everyone that global warming leads to cooling!!
Or that man made global warming leads to more erratic weather.
Erratic weather? As opposed to non- erratic weather?
Has weather ever been static? Has climate ever been static on this planet?
Static being defined as "Lacking in movement, action, or change, esp. in a way viewed as undesirable or uninteresting."
NO. The earths climate has always been anything but uninteresting.

 The earth has seen previous ice ages and previous warmings... The believers fail to take that fact into consideration.  They downplay the  role of  solar activity on the Earth or other planets in the solar system for that matter. The cult of man made Global Warming, and it is a cult, because it requires extraordinary levels of  faith or belief to sustain it, chose to believe  and accept many curious things...

Digression:  I have a number of posts on this subject, so one can hit the label at the bottom. I am not going to rehash it all here, again.

Some recent news was reported that demonstrated, yet again, yet another flaw in the cult of global warming.

Glaciers were growing - West Himalayan glaciers grew over last decade

From today-
You know the Polar Bears......yeah. Global warming, extinction.
Not so fast!

Just last year, the World Wildlife Fund’s climate blog headlined that “Polar Bear Population in Canada’s Western Hudson Bay Unlikely to Survive Climate Disruption.” But it seems that since then this subpopulation, previously believed to be among the most threatened subpopulations due to global warming, has made a miraculous recovery. According to aerial surveys released by the Government of Nunavat this month, their numbers are at least 66% higher than expected. This region, which straddles Nunavat and Manitoba, is critical because it’s considered to be a bellwether for how well polar bears are faring elsewhere in the Arctic.
And to top off that happy news, recent space satellite images reveal that 36 colonies of Antarctic emperor penguins are twice larger than researchers previously thought. In fact four additional colonies that scientists hadn’t known about were discovered as well.


66 percent higher!
Not likely a "miraculous recovery".


Rather, to my mind, a demonstration that numbers may have been manipulated. Fixed to fit the agenda.


Interestingly- James Lovelock,  who will surely lose high priest status from the global warming cult with this reversal

Seriously a reversal.

 Here’s what he says, as reported by MSNBC:
“The problem is we don’t know what the climate is doing. We thought we knew 20 years ago. That led to some alarmist books – mine included – because it looked clear-cut, but it hasn’t happened,” Lovelock said.
“The climate is doing its usual tricks. There’s nothing much really happening yet. We were supposed to be halfway toward a frying world now,” he said.

“The world has not warmed up very much since the millennium. Twelve years is a reasonable time… it (the temperature) has stayed almost constant, whereas it should have been rising -- carbon dioxide is rising, no question about that,” he added.

He pointed to Gore’s “An Inconvenient Truth” and Tim Flannery’s “The Weather Makers” as other examples of “alarmist” forecasts of the future.



"We were supposed to be halfway toward a frying world now” 
We were supposed to be halfway toward a frying world. Sure, according to all the computer models/programs used to create the intelligence/results to fit the agenda of man made global warming.
 However, the real world doesn't operate according to a carefully programmed computer parameter.
Which is why we are not halfway to frying!

"Alarmist forecasts" with an agenda- Al Gore, himself, was set to become the first Carbon billionaire
What do we call that? When someone has a vested interest in a specific agenda.
The word escapes me at the moment. But, it doesn't matter, I am sure the concept of vested interest is one the vast majority of people are aware of.

Al Gore has a very large vested interest.
As pharmaceutical companies have vested interests in promoting the use of drugs
As the military industrial complex has vested interests in promoting war.

One thing the global warming cult always promotes as "green" is nuclear power.
Nuclear power is not green. Unless one is deluded!
Buffy, in the comment section of the previous glacier growth post, mentioned that the WAR MACHINE  has a huge "carbon footprint"
WAR is massively polluting. WAR is a massive resource waste. In so many ways.

I will share just a snippet-

The  DoD (department of defence) is the largest single consumer of energy in the United States. Nigeria, with a population of more than 140 million, consumes as much energy as the U.S. military.
The DoD consumes as much energy as an entire African nation.

The DoD uses 360,000 barrels of oil each day. This amount makes the DoD the single largest oil consumer in the world. 

The DoD is the single largest consumer of oil in the WORLD.
Of course there is electricity to consider..

There are other aspects of war that are destructive, besides the death and disease, depleted uranium etc.
Ever notice the global warming cult promoting peace?  Anti-war? No war?
Nope.

Aren't we witnessing an expansion of war?? Global war
How much energy will be consumed for imperialist agendas that are not supported by the populace??
 If governments of the world were legitimately concerned with "man made global warming" they would not be undertaking wars of choice for global hegemony.

Then there is the globalization agenda- I buy locally. As much as possible.
 But, local food supplies have been decimated to create a global food chain and planetary dependency-
We see, particularly in the US, a clamp down on home gardeners and organic grower, or local market gardens.... or food cooperatives Why?

Big polluters: one massive container ship equals 50 million cars

 April 23, 2009 The Guardian has reported on new research showing that in one year, a single large container ship can emit cancer and asthma-causing pollutants equivalent to that of 50 million cars. The low grade bunker fuel used by the worlds 90,000 cargo ships contains up to 2,000 times the amount of sulfur compared to diesel fuel used in automobiles. The recent boom in the global trade of manufactured goods has also resulted in a new breed of super sized container ship which consume fuel not by the gallons, but by tons per hour, and shipping now accounts for 90% of global trade by volume.

The fuel used in ships is waste oil, basically what is left over after the crude oil refining process. It is the same as asphalt and is so thick that when cold it can be walked upon . It's the cheapest and most polluting fuel available and the world's 90,000 ships chew through an astonishing 7.29 million barrels of it each day, or more than 84% of all exported oil production from Saudi Arabia, the worlds largest oil exporter. Shipping is by far the biggest transport polluter in the world. There are 760 million cars in the world today emitting approx 78,599 tons of Sulphur Oxides (SOx) annually. The world's 90,000 vessels burn approx 370 million tons of fuel per year emitting 20 million tons of Sulphur Oxides. That equates to 260 times more Sulphur Oxides being emitted by ships than the worlds entire car fleet.  


And where are the cultists on this issue? Nowhere to be seen. Or heard. Why?
Because cleaning up the environment is not really part of this agenda. It is profit a new form of currency in Carbon Credits. A new "bubble" to blow up and burst. And control of the populace. 


Of course there is the promotion of genetically modified food!
Story for another day.

40 comments:

  1. The DoD consumes as much energy as an entire African nation.

    Not just an African nation. The most populated African nation and #7 in the world.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population

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    1. Thanks for clarifying gallier!

      So the DoD consumes as much energy as the most populated African nation!

      I have noticed the true believers have been out in full force all over the net

      The reason why seems obvious. The real world is not living up to, or warming up to the promoted agenda

      I have noticed the term "denier" being thrown around a lot
      But, who denies the world gets warmer and colder all on it's own. Not me, not you

      Tiresome

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    2. It's the build-up to Rio+20 Penny.

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    3. "So the DoD consumes as much energy as the most populated African nation!"

      I would say as much energy as one of the world's most populated nations.

      Nigeria is not just Africa's most populous but one of the world's as well. And oh, gallier, thanks for pointing it out but we're at number six now not seven.

      "On Monday October 31 (2011), Gabriel was born at 12 am at Gwarinpa General Hospital Abuja which made Nigeria to stand at 167 million persons. And that same day the world celebrates 7 billion persons. Nigeria is now the sixth most populated nation..."~~National Population Commission of Nigeria

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    4. Oh, I just quoted wikipedia (yes I know that's bad, guilty as charged ;-)

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    5. Good day Egoigwe and Gallier!

      Egoigwe thanks for clarifying

      The DoD consumes as much energy as one of the world's most populous nations!

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    6. Just putting some flesh on that bone Penny :) It really comes to light, the wastage involved, when we note that the DoD consumes as much energy as 167 million people would on a good day. One really has to ponder to what that energy is being applied and why. It also shows the monopoly America exerts on energy to be able to indulge in such colossal wastage and its sense of misplaced priority whereas it could be better applied.

      You did just right Gallier, ranking the quantum involved. It brought the picture and the point Penny made to life.

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    7. Egoigwe: well said, well said.

      the DoD consuming as much oil as 167 million people is an obscenity.

      And yet we never hear word of it in the great global warming debate, never.

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  2. I am also expecting someone to come and wield the "rightwing" label or the "rightest" agenda label

    Anyone who reads here on a relatively regular basis knows I do not espouse or believe in that divide to conquer theory...

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    1. "Al Gore has a very large vested interest.
      As pharmaceutical companies have vested interests in promoting the use of drugs
      As the military industrial complex has vested interests in promoting war."

      Al Gore to one side, the business community (capitalism) has a vested interest in preventing any regulation of its activities. Whether global warming is real or not, the effect of the AGW theory and the subsequent delegitimisation of the AGW theory, has been to paralise the ability of communities to harness any kind of control over the activities of the business community.

      The AGW theory made the environment movement put all their eggs in the AGW basket. The subsequent delegitimisation of AGW theory leaves the environment movement standing there with its dick in its hand.

      You say the rulers of the world have been pushing AGW down our necks, I say the rulers of the world are behind the delegitimsation of AGW theory, and it may be that we're both substantially correct.

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    2. The AGW theory made the environment movement put all their eggs in the AGW basket. The subsequent delegitimisation of AGW theory leaves the environment movement standing there with its dick in its hand.

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      Indeed, as I have long held, the environmental movement was showing too many signs of uniting the divided masses, it was something which was crossing the partisan lines - that had to be stopped. The co-opting of this 'movement' began a long time ago, in fact my dear old Dad darn near got into a fist fight with Maurice Strong over this whole debacle - and that was in the 70's!!! At the time I was a little flower child who bought into the whole humans are horrible mantra, he warned me to be very careful believing what these so-called experts espoused (thanks dad - a true scientist at heart).

      AGW was/is a strawman - designed to delegitimise scientific inquiry - that way when exposed the elites among us (read greedy bastards) can point their greasy fingers at it and say: See the science was wrong about this - so it must be wrong about everything else.

      Its bullshit.

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    3. Magdelena, yes, Maurice Strong (possibly the son of Deng Xiaoping and Anna Louise Strong) is a big player in the eco-fascist movement. What has he been up to in China, I wonder?

      I strongly disagree, however, that AGW is a strawman. Everything I see indicates that the PTB are intent on establishing a Technocratic governance. Having AGW as a strawman doesn't fit in that agenda. And Peter D's contention that the PTB are behind the de-legitimisation of AGW theory is quite bizarre. For sure AGW being shoved down our throats left, right and centre on the MSM is a certain sign that the 'rulers of the world' are against the AGW theory :rolleyes:.

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    4. And hello to you also freethinker

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  3. Peter D:

    "Al Gore to one side, the business community (capitalism) has a vested interest in preventing any regulation of its activities.

    Al Gore should not be put aside, he is the face of the problem. He is the downside of global capitalism. He is the a banker, and his brokerage firm is part of the banker/control agenda.
    Brokerage firms and bankers, will not face any regulation, will not be restrained in creating a new bubble, which like the housing bubble explosion, will leave ordinary people devastated.

    "Whether global warming is real or not, the effect of the AGW theory and the subsequent delegitimisation of the AGW theory, has been to paralise the ability of communities to harness any kind of control over the activities of the business community."


    Why do you assume that AGW theory adoption will result in restraint of corporations, especially in local communities?
    It won't. Local communities have been completely dis-empowered thanks to so called "free" trade agreements.

    The promotion of the AGW theory has no mechanism/ability to control activities of the business community

    Is there any indication of movement away from globalisation and back to cleaner, sensible, safer- localisation?

    I see none.

    Even the move to 'green energy' with giant windfarms etc- all heavily taxpayer subsidized, I may add.

    Wouldn't it be more sensible for homeowners to retrofit their homes?

    Top notch insulation, better windows, solar cells, I am trying to think of that heating from the ground?????
    Dam!

    Thereby reducing the need for so much energy production and usage.

    That is not what is happening, because that is not the agenda being promoted.

    After all, it is all the taxpayers money. You cannot disagree with that?

    Instead we see the typical government/corporate/fascist agenda

    All intended to give control to huge corporations.


    You say the rulers of the world have been pushing AGW down our necks, I say the rulers of the world are behind the delegitimsation of AGW theory, and it may be that we're both substantially correct.

    Given the fact that this is promoted all over the place. The msm media, television shows. I believe you mentioned you hailed from Australia?
    I had a post up about a new show the carbon cops or some such nonsense.

    From the fact that there is yet another conference in Rio as Freethinker pointed out. Promoted by the UN ,which should say alot.
    To the fact that AGW is now part of school curriculum!

    There is zero indication that the global rules are trying to suppress this theory.

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    1. To the environment movement, AGW theory held the promise of unprecedented access to new ways of shaping and reforming the economies of the world - it would be the environmental technicians who would have ultimate say over the way things would be. This was the promise it held - it was everything the environment movement could have hoped for, a game changer.

      We know now, as some have known all along, that it's fanciful to think the bankers would ever hand over control of the world to the environmental scientists.

      The young Rothschild chap tours the world warning us all of the dangers of climate change, sure enough, but as far as elite sponsorship of the delegitimisation of AGW theory goes, in my neck of the woods you need look no further than journalist Andrew Bolt - climate change debunker extraordinaire - who writes for Rupert Murdoch's papers here. You might have reams of evidence, Penny, that Murdoch is helping with the AGW agenda, but Bolt would have been out on his ear long ago if Murdoch didn't want to see the legitimacy of AGW theory attacked.

      They're playing both sides, and it's not surprising to see that they're winning, seeing as most people haven't even woken up to the fact that society is run by crooks.

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    2. Peter, you bring up some important issues-

      "To the environment movement, AGW theory held the promise of unprecedented access to new ways of shaping and reforming the economies of the world - it would be the environmental technicians who would have ultimate say over the way things would be. This was the promise it held - it was everything the environment movement could have hoped for, a game changer."

      The meme of 'the end justifies the means' comes up a lot in your comments. It is the path to totalitarianism, whether communist or fascist, it must always be rejected. Your comment lays bare the fascist agenda of the greens. The PTB and the eco-fascists are all for Technocratic governance. Technocracy (a movement dating from the early 20th century) is a natural bedfellow of Eugenics and Totalitarianism.


      "We know now, as some have known all along, that it's fanciful to think the bankers would ever hand over control of the world to the environmental scientists."

      But they have. However these scientists are fully in the pocket of the PTB, whether funded by Soros, Rockefeller, Rothschild, the UN or the multitude of NGOs that form world governance. Scientists are not pillars of truth - they are easily controlled by funding and by the gatekeepers of the academic journals. Climategate has exposed this. Most scientists (as are academics as a whole) are left-leaning and many have accepted the idea that the end justifies the means - so they work for a cause, not science. Look at 'Gleickgate' to see where that can lead. Climategates and Gleikgate were not exposed by the PTB, but in spite of them.


      "The young Rothschild chap tours the world warning us all of the dangers of climate change, sure enough, but as far as elite sponsorship of the delegitimisation of AGW theory goes, in my neck of the woods you need look no further than journalist Andrew Bolt - climate change debunker extraordinaire - who writes for Rupert Murdoch's papers here. You might have reams of evidence, Penny, that Murdoch is helping with the AGW agenda, but Bolt would have been out on his ear long ago if Murdoch didn't want to see the legitimacy of AGW theory attacked.
      They're playing both sides, and it's not surprising to see that they're winning, seeing as most people haven't even woken up to the fact that society is run by crooks."


      They always play both sides. This takes two forms: Controlled Opposition and the (Hegelian) Dialectic. Murdoch, as all MSM, is controlled by the PTB via the CFR and associated NGOs, so any dissenting voice in the MSM is controlled opposition. CO will expose some truth, but not as much as genuine opposition; or they will expose some truth but ally that with something unpalatable such as an extreme right-wing, or religious viewpoint. So we get AGW sceptics lumped in the same basket as unhinged right-wing gun-toting patriots and religious fundamentalists, or even holocaust deniers. So, yes, the PTB do fund some anti-AGW voices but that pales into insignificance compared to the massive pro-AGW funding of a central plank of their Technocratic world governance. And that does not mean that all dissenting voices are just controlled opposition. There are principled scientists who work for science and not an agenda. There are whistle-blowers who can on occasion (like Climategate-I&II) put a spoke in the wheel of the 'great work'.

      Peter, you need to open your eyes; forget the false left-right paradigm that is just a dialectical device. What is your take on 9-11 btw?

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    3. Or Bolt would have been out on his ear if Murdoch did not want to sell advertising?

      I don't know who this Bolt person is. I'll be honest.

      If I can make a suggestion, if you think Murdoch is against AGW, dig into his affiliations and his investments.
      I had one here on Prince Charles who touts AGW and his backers are all big oil
      If I find it I will relink
      Interesting-

      http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2010/11/corporate-climate-coup.html

      "Those who split off from the GCC quickly coalesced in new organizations. Among the first of these was the Pew Center for Global Climate Change. Funded by the philanthropic offering of the Sun Oil/Sunoco fortune. The board of the new Center was chaired by Theodore Roosevelt IV, great grandson of the Progressive Era president (and conservation icon) and managing director of the Lehman Brothers investment banking firm. Joining him on the board were the managing director of the Castle-Harlan investment firm and the former CEO of Northeast Utilities, as well as veteran corporate lawyer Frank E. Loy, who had been the Clinton administration's chief negotiator on trade and climate change."

      Or
      http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2010/08/profits-of-doom.html

      In Canada there was news that cap and trade can be started
      though the government officially does not support AGW
      so, they will just sneak it in

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    4. freethinker, 9/11 was an inside job.

      And you guys need to open your other eye.

      http://www.desmogblog.com/heartland-insider-exposes-institute-s-budget-and-strategy

      http://www.science20.com/chatter_box/heartland_institute_and_murdoch_media-87115

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    5. "http://www.desmogblog.com/heartland-insider-exposes-institute-s-budget-and-strategy"

      Oops, I previously misspelled Gleickgate which is now better known as Fakegate. If you care to look at the Fakegate link or do your own search you'll find Peter that the story you linked was a complete and utter fabrication from a warmist zealot called Gleick.

      Of course some unprincipled warmists try and cover their embarrassment at being exposed by claiming that this kind of behaviour is fine and dandy in the interests of The Greater Good, in fact some even make out that Gleick is a hero for lying and cheating 'for the cause'. Eco-fascists.

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    6. desmogblog?!
      wow, don't get me started.
      I did some digging on that blog
      Peter D, you do realize it is a PR operation, right?

      First before I get into that- thanks for participating here in a civil way. I appreciate it :)

      From Al Gore's Investment Management to DeSmogBlog
      http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2009/12/from-al-gores-investment-management-to.html

      I did all the work, connecting the dots on this one!

      A blog called DeSmogBlog. A play on the Quebecois accent?

      Nice blog, lots of work put into it, and not a free use blog..like the one I post on.
      I guess all my big oil funding, isn't that big. lol.
      Anyway, I am curious, as always, what is dis DeSmogBlog? Who is behind it? How much money does it take to run this slick site? So, whilst in this curious state I click the About Us button.

      "The DeSmogBlog team is led by Jim Hoggan, founder of James Hoggan & Associates, one of Canada's leading public relations firms"

      Hm! A public relations firm running,in my opinion, a foolishly named blog.
      Well I am sure they must have done some market research for that one?
      But, my thought here is public relations firms are employed by someone, payed for by someone.
      After all a public relations firm is there to make money.
      So let's do a little more digging, shall we?

      Reading more I come to this:
      "His client list includes real estate development companies, high tech firms, pharmaceutical, forest industry giants, resorts and academic institutions."

      But, when I clicked the link I got a 404, Not Found.
      A dead end? Not for me.

      I do a bit more searching on Jim Hoggan and I find he sits on the Board of Directors of The Climate Project Canada

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    7. Pt2-
      I do a bit more searching on Jim Hoggan and I find he sits on the Board of Directors of The Climate Project Canada
      And when one looks at the home page for Climate Project Canada, there is the face of Al Gore.
      That is when I had my AHA moment! AHA!
      Let's go over to Mr. Gore's Carbon Trading Website: Generation Investment Management LLP
      This is Al Gore's pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, the very, very profitable carbon trade market. His very glaring conflict of interest!
      Now go over to the link Partnerships
      Here is the list:

      The Alliance for Climate Protection
      World Resources Institute
      National Resource Defense Council
      The Climate Project
      Mistra Foundation


      Oh looky, looky! The Climate Project! The very same Climate Project that has Jim Hoggan on the board of directors.
      The very same Jim Hoggan that is running DeSmogBlog, fully staffed!

      Now, we should be able to put two and two together and figure out that Jim Hoggan and his PR Firm have to be in the employ of Al Gore's Generation Investment Management LLP.
      Because PR Firms are employed by someone, staff has to be payed somehow?
      Making DeSmogBlog a site that has it's own bias and it's own unique conflict of interest.


      There are links contained within the post
      It is an older one, but, relevant as ever
      Demonstrating that desmog blog is part of an agenda

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    8. Hey at least we agree 9/11 was an inside job

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    9. I like to think my eyes are open.

      Regarding Murdochs' man?

      wondering if he argued in a rather limited manner against AGW

      I recall seeing some spin out of FOX news on that was very carefully written, very contained, in what was said.

      Peter D: does it bother you at all that nearly every claim made by the AGW theorists have been wrong?

      I have numerous of those documented here.

      How many times must a "theory" be demonstrated to be wrong, before people will stop believing it?

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    10. Regarding the Gleick/Heartland Institute story: Gleick is the *story* and DeSmogBlog is merely *reporting the story*, and therefore the story (i.e. Gleick) can't be discredited by its association with the reporter of the story (DSB), because it has nowhere been demonstrated that there is any actual link between the two. Yet you all seem to dismiss the evidence out-of-hand. Maybe you think Gleick and DSB are in cahoots, but were getting into seriously paranoid territory with that, given that they’d have had to fabricate all of the Heartland Institute’s plotting behind the scenes...unless of course the Heartland Institute was in on it too!

      And freethinker, I am flabbergasted at the way you’ve spun this story around so that in your characterisation of it, black has been renamed white. The story wasn’t a “fabrication,” Gleick tricked the HI into giving him insider information about the Institute. He really did! And the information he tricked out of them demonstrated that the Institute was a very long way from being the independent think-tank they claim to be. And then you direct us to a HI webpage which tries to bluster its way past their embarrassing exposure. It didn't work.

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    11. Regarding Murdochs' man?

      wondering if he argued in a rather limited manner against AGW


      In terms of writers/bloggers/journalists calling into question the legitimacy of AGW theory, Andrew Bolt leads the way here in Australia. He isn’t at all half-hearted about it. The current Labor government is set to lose power at the next election, in large part because they’re introducing a carbon tax when they had no mandate to, but if the legitimacy of AGW theory hadn’t been sufficiently undermined in the public sphere, it all may have all turned out differently for them . The leader of the opposition here thinks AGW is “crap,” though his party mostly pays lip service to climate change dogmas. (So Bolt must be one of the good guys, hey?)



      Peter D: does it bother you at all that nearly every claim made by the AGW theorists have been wrong?

      Re. AGW theories being mostly wrong, or not, I’m in the fortunate position of not being bothered too much about it one way or the other. Catastrophic climate change or not, I dislike what too many humans are doing to the planet, and would see our patterns of behaviour dramatically altered anyway, whatever the truth about AGW may be. (This must make me an "eco-fascist" of the worst possible kind, I guess)

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    12. Clearly Desmog blog is connected enough to have "leaked" the Gleick info. Leaked or Planted whichever?

      My old post connected Desmog Blog to Al Gore's carbon outfit
      The connection was clear as I pointed out
      The fellow that runs DeSmog Blog is Jim Hoggan and he is a Public Relations man, in fact he runs a PR firm

      Therefore DeSmog blog was created to promote the agenda for the benefit of Al Gore and other carbon trade/cap promoters. Of course for Jim Hoggans benefit. Financial, of course.

      And there is nothing new under the sun regarding the collusion of PR Firms and business, PR Firms and government. PR Firms and the war machine
      PR firms manage the perception of everyone who allows their perception to be managed

      The fact that Hoggan is a PR man, connected to Al Gore's carbon trading outfit, should set off alarm bells.


      "I dislike what too many humans are doing to the planet, and would see our patterns of behaviour dramatically altered anyway"

      this sentence can be taken so many ways.
      Because humans are not really doing all that much to the planet. Speaking of the lower echelons.

      However the corporate 'humans' are plundering,everything,, including the real flesh and blood humans.

      So, IMO, you are missing the point.
      No one asked for globalization. No flesh and blood humans of the lower echelons.
      (Only the elite crowd and it's sycophants)
      The masses didn't
      I didn't.
      The masses of flesh and blood humans did not ask for nuclear power, most flesh and blood humans are opposed

      The masses did not ask for war that destroys the planet
      The elitist humans do, in service to their corporate humans

      Most of the humans on the planet don't have the means, the time, the luxury of exploiting the planet

      Myself, personally, Rain barrels, organic garden, fuel efficient vehicle, etc. etc. According to "AGW supporters"
      I am a bad human.
      Though extended family members are floundering in this new global economy of exploitation that they never wanted or asked for or benefit from.

      Do you think Al Gore lives an austere life?
      With his numerous giant mansions and his jet setting life style?
      Oh yeah, he just buys 'carbon credits' and that makes it all ok.
      Do you not see the absurdity in that?

      It bothers me that you do not see humans as part of the planet systems and you do not see them as being exploited, used and abused along with the rest of the planetary resources.

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    13. Peter I don't have a torch to burn for the Heartland Institute (HI) but I wish all NGOs were as open and up front about their agenda. From their 2011 prospectus You may also know us from our work exposing the shoddy science and missing economics behind the global warming delusion. Our videos, books, studies, and international conferences changed the debate and led to the defeat of “cap and trade.” They are obviously not claiming to be non-partisan. Gleick has shown himself to be dishonest and deceptive; until Gleick sues HI for defamation I'll continue to accept the HI side of the story.


      Fakegate - a summary:

      13 Jan 2012- From Peter Gleick Debate Invitation
      Invitation to Gleick from the evil Heartland Institute-
      Dr. Gleick,
      I’ve enjoyed the lively discussion via dueling Forbes.com columns and replies between you and James Taylor.
      The Heartland Institute is in the early planning stages for our 28th Anniversary Benefit Dinner later this year. We usually have a keynote speaker or debate for the “entertainment” portion of the event, and I was wondering if you’d be willing to come to Chicago to debate James Taylor. We’d donate $5,000 to the charity of your choice in lieu of an honoraria.
      I think such a debate would be enlightening, and a lot of fun. Folks at Heartland don’t bite, and treat those with whom we disagree with respect.
      (You can ask Scott Denning at Colorado State University about how he was treated at our last two climate conferences, or go here to view his words of thanks at our 4th conference.)
      Let me know if this offer is appealing to you, and if it might fit your schedule. Regards,Jim Lakely

      - oh, the evil fiends pretending to be nice to Gleick, an outrage!


      14 Feb 2012- Heartland Insider Exposes Institute's Budget and Strategy
      Only as it turns out he wasn't an 'insider' and the key stategy document was largely a Forgery


      20 Feb 2012- Peter Gleick confessed to stealing documents from The Heartland Institute with the intent of exposing its funding sources and damaging its reputation. He also disseminated a fake “climate strategy memo” that he and other environmental activists on the left claim describes Heartland’s “secret strategy” to mislead the public about the true nature of climate change.


      14 Mar 2012 – From Study: Gleick Forged ‘Fakegate’ Memo
      A computer analysis of the “climate strategy memo” at the heart of the widely publicized global warming scandal called “Fakegate” concludes disgraced climate scientist Peter Gleick, president of the Pacific Institute, is the most likely author.

      Gleick has already confessed to stealing confidential documents from The Heartland Institute in an attempt to expose the organization’s sources of funding. While first claiming the memo came from Heartland, he more recently claimed to have received it “in the mail” from an anonymous source.

      The new analysis is important because virtually all of the negative coverage of The Heartland Institute and the global warming “skeptics” movement that followed the release of the stolen and forged documents was based on the assumed authenticity of the forged “confidential memo.”



      So what do we learn from the HI documents (the ones that were procured by deception and not the forged one) - Koch donated $25,000 in 2011 and was expected to increase that to $200,000 in 2012.

      That is a tiny drop compared to the ocean of pro-AGW funding provided to scientists and NGOs by governments, the UN, the Rothschilds, Rockefeller, Soros etc. Peter do you really believe that the likes of the Rothschilds, Rockefeller and Soros are acting out of altruism?

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    14. "Re. AGW theories being mostly wrong, or not, I’m in the fortunate position of not being bothered too much about it one way or the other. Catastrophic climate change or not, I dislike what too many humans are doing to the planet, and would see our patterns of behaviour dramatically altered anyway, whatever the truth about AGW may be. (This must make me an "eco-fascist" of the worst possible kind, I guess)"

      Well there we are then - science and truth mean nothing to you, only the agenda counts. And you have the gall to accuse me of spinning the story around so that black is white. What chutzpah!

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  4. Ignore the typos folks

    "He is a banker, and his brokerage firm is part of the banker/control agenda."

    "There is zero indication that the global rulers are trying to suppress this theory."

    I should use preview all the time

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  5. Maggie:

    I think the AGW theory and movement have completely delegitimized the environmental movement.

    It also served as a huge distraction from so many other important issues.

    Such as the pollution created by container shipping.
    Such as the pollution created by warfare
    To name just a couple
    There is of course the promotion of nuclear energy
    And the gmo garbage

    All gone.
    How beneficial for Monsanto

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  6. Penny, are you familiar with the 'Fakegate' story linked above? Its worth a read.

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    1. No, I wasn't until you left the link
      Just another one of many

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    2. Good work on desmogblog and I'm glad you're feeling better today.

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  7. More on Technocracy than you ever wanted to know-

    Against-
    Corbett Report - Against Technocracy Planned-opolis is mentioned, see below for a link.
    Carbon Currency: A New Beginning for Technocracy?
    Smart Grid: The Implementation of Technocracy?
    Technocracy’s Endgame: Global Smart Grid
    The Economist - Minds like machines
    The Persistence of Eugenics 'A form of technocracy'
    Alan Watt - Technocratic Society - 1
    Alan Watt - Technocratic Society - 2
    Alan Watt - Carbon currency, technocracy and totalitarianism
    Corbett - The Last Word on Utopia
    Corbett - Carbon Eugenics (2009)

    For-
    Planned-opolis
    Technocracy Inc.
    The Venus Project A utopian view of Technocracy as advocated in Zeitgeist Addendum. Pie in the sky.
    Zeitgeist Movement response to Corbett Report's "The Last Word on Utopia"


    If the world weren't ruled by a psychopathic elite who regard themselves as chosen to rule the common herd of two legged beasts (that's us folks) then Technocracy might work as advertised. But with that elite firmly in charge (at least in the west) Technocracy is simply a tool to govern by (increasingly tyrannical) diktat.

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    1. Freethinker!

      more items to bookmark?
      what are you trying to do to me ;)
      Perhaps I will throw them all into a post
      I doubt, that I am the only one interested
      Thanks as always
      and thanks for your concern

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  8. I hope you'll find time to skim through some of them - in your leisure time :)

    I used the word 'Technocracy' quite a few times in my earlier comments and I thought it worth highlighting that it is not just some vague generic term but that there is a whole worked-out philosophy of control behind it. It is a glue that binds together world governance (not government), police-state, carbon taxing & rationing, smart-meters, eugenics etc.

    Penny, the link I drew your attention to recently on the w-who? thread needs to be read/saved now as the link won't last. It's only a single page, but most illuminating.

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  9. freethinker
    I did read them, by saving them, you didn't mean bookmark???
    The second one is not there. Or not how you linked it?
    I downloaded the first one today
    Is there anyway you can put that second one back here?
    Then I can download it?
    If you can, please do and I will check back
    Thanks

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    1. The links are still working ok for me. Its not my photo album btw that's why I think the links might not last. The first link is a page from Ezekiel's letter which I thought very interesting (didn't you?); the second is just a brief extract to prove that Ezekiel was a member of B'nai B'rith.

      The only reason I brought it up again is that you said you'd bookmark it for future reference - I was just pointing out that the link could break.

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    2. Freethinker:
      I have them both saved as jpg's now
      Swamped yesterday, so I couldn't reply
      Odd that the second link didn't look the same to me...
      but then last week was not a great week
      And I look at way to much stuff
      thanks for taking the time to make sure I get them
      Yes, I did think it interesting,
      all the when we rule the world......
      scary, and very applicable to what Mr Atzmon had said

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  10. World Alert to:

    GIVING ALL THE PEOPLE TOTAL POWER

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    Rather than brutal corporate slavery and irreversible destruction as reasons for change, it could be that the most appropriate catalyst to stop the rot is none other than an all inclusive unconditional personal Census of Ego-Intent relating to how populations are being trained to think and act in harmful ways.

    A census of intent is a very simple and completely natural way for every one of Earth’s citizens to declare what they truly support and want, whether it be more preventable destruction or a none at all.

    It’s not a matter of providing people with false possession of ‘opinion’ and ‘beliefs’, it’s more like freely giving them a clear and simple way to use Nature’s universal language to release their true selves from harmful human resource corporate control agendas.

    Please investigate the attached Universal Harm Prevention Portfolio.
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