Monday, August 29, 2016

Turkey’s Border Wall with Syria

Yes, Turkey has built a good sized, height and length, wall on it's border with Syria. I've mentioned this reality on several occasions. Turkey began construction more then a year ago.. 

Where there is no wall, there will be trenches or massive barbed wire fences. Claims that Turkey has done nothing to secure it's borders just don't ring true. As I've stated once Turkey began tightening border security the US and company began airdropping arms to KurdIShIS. Or arms were brought into Syria via Iraq. Both of these truths ignored to continue pushing a simplistic narrative- 

 Truth Exists

Flashback: November 13: 2015  Sinjar: Creating a Crucial Supply Route for KurdIShIS & Annexing Iraqi Territory
Briefly- Turkey has been cutting off KurdIShIS supply lines for a while now- Covered previously at the blog. This is most likely the reason we recently had reports of the US dropping tons of arms to Kurdish militias in Syria.

 US Airdrops Weapons to Kurdish Militias in Northern Syria: Kurds & War Crimes!
 US Airdrops Tons & Tons of Munitions into Northern Syria- For the “good” terrorists
Sadly, simplistic memes rule no matter how incorrect they may be.  Still we can connect the  beginning of airdrops to Kurdish terrorists PKK/YPG and the smuggling through Iraq with the increased security at the Turkish border
Speaking of simplistic memes..... Kurds: Betrayers Are Often Betrayed- Victims of and Parties to Conflict

Truth Exists, it's based in reality. Below is some reality.

Let's talk about the Turkish Border Wall


Within this framework, Turkey has erected a 239-kilometer-long (148.5 miles) fixed concrete wall at the border with Syria and is planning to build another one, 207-km-long (128.6 miles).
Concrete wall for more then half of the border
Turkey shares a 900-km-long (559 miles) border with Syria, which has been involved in a civil war since 2011. Separately, the set-up of 49 km (30.4 miles) of barbed wire, 72 km (44.7) of a trellis fence, and a 61-km barrier (37.9 miles) of razor accordion-wire has also been completed.
The Turkish Army has also dug a 401-km (249 miles) ditch and built an 86-km-long (53.4 miles) embankment as well as completed a 4-km (2.4 miles) shear wall.
It has also completed the construction of 57 concrete watchtowers at the border regions in the Gaziantep and Kilis provinces and has modernized many existing towers with day-and-night surveillance systems.
Turkish army troops have completed the construction of 85 km (52.8 miles) and improved 1,892 km (1175.6 miles) of roads, and ameliorated lighting on 422 km (262 miles) of the border.
In line with demands, authorities have declared temporary military security zones in 47 regions, while one region was declared a special security zone.
 I live quite near the US/Canada border. There is nothing like what is mentioned above going on in Niagara....

See also: Syria–Turkey border

Turkey announced a plan in July 2015 to build an 800-km (500-mi) wall along its border with Syria.[23]

Construction began last year in July 2015:

Beginning with an 8 kilometre long wall in Hatay province

 Turkey has started building a new wall along a fragment of its southeastern border with Syria as it struggles against smuggling, illegal migration and the threat from al Qaeda fighters among Syria's rebel ranks.
 The Wall in Hatay Province is now 239 kms long

Turkey has built a 239-km wall in Hatay province on the border with Syria for enhancing its security, Anadolu Agency reported Aug. 22.
The newly built wall is three meters high and two meters wide, according to the agency.

Daily Mail  October 2015

 Drastic action: Construction begins on a high-security border fence between Turkey and Syria, pictured in the town of Reyhanli today, in Hatay province..

The latest  portion of wall construction is taking place at Ayn Al Arab or Kobane: 

In my world Ayn al arab is Syrian territory, not Kurdish. And the name of the town is Ayn al Arab- not Kobane. Since the msm and alternative have already erased the actual name of that town from the collective memories of the masses I’ll use both names, but, will opt for the correct name of the town first- Ayn Al Arab. (Kobanî , officially Ayn al-Arab) My presentation  of this material in this manner is in line with that of John Kerry and Sergei Lavrov: Both of whom have informed us they stand for a unified Syria and not an 'independent' Kurdistan

Yesterday the Kurds were claiming the Turks were going to attack Ayn al Arab aka Kobane- this was utter nonsense from what I had read, because the Turks were building another section of their border wall! Verified today by the Kurds themselves..

Kurds protesting wall being built a border

It appears a generous handful came out to protest- I see about 30 in the pic included with the coverage:


 The Turkish authorities started building a barrier wall on its southern border.

The Rojava Self-Administration issued a statement condemning the Turkish barrier wall project, and called on the international community to take action and stop the Turkish violations on the border with Syria. 

“The Self-Administration in the Kobane canton condemns this aggression by the Turkish state against the people of our region. We appeal to the international community to break its silence and put pressure on the Turkish government to stop those violations,” it said.

That would be quite hypocritical of the international community to condemn Turkey, for securing it's border, after all the caterwauling from the international community.

We gathered here today to condemn the barrier wall project launched by Erdogan and his government,” Zaibar Kurdi, one of the Kobane protesters.
 This is not the first time for Turkey to build such a barrier wall on its borders with Syria’s Kurdish region. A similar wall has been built near the cities of Qamishli, Derik and Afrin.


  1. If Russia want informed and elements in the .mil moved, is this a case of Article 5 baiting? Force Russia into another move tipping the chain reaction? Tactically adept, strategically a wildcard...The equivilant of the Russian shoot-down with much higher stakes. Russia sending the carrier to the Med which they said was to act as standing for the Mistral. See Lavrov comments last week on the inability of the US to separate the moderates following his comments months ago about the Russians being played for fools.

    Turkish Special Forces chief on the border.

  2. anonymous "If Russia want informed and elements in the .mil moved, is this a case of Article 5 baiting?"

    I get the Article 5 reference:

    Just an FYI:

    " The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

    Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security"

    How would this apply in this instance- Can you clarify?

  3. Are you suggesting Russia may be being baited into attacking Turkey?
    Not sure?

    1. Like SU shoot, is Erdogan left reacting. FOrmer Pm came out weeks ago and again claimed indirect line of command for shootdown. More wind down of the former PM clique - arrests of 2 former deputies in past week. Specifically note the EUCOM visit to Aker (Russia visit canceled Friday - Emphasis) and the stories circulating night of he was forced to read a script then the CCTV leaks of his being taken down in HQ (see links)

      Russia meeting postponed

      Interfax this AM
      Inspection of some ministries and agencies for readiness to work in war-time conditions is common practice - Kremlin


    3. I'm aware of the desired changes.. to my knowledge they've not come into play at this time.
      The reuters article confirms they still have not

      Is someone playing Erdogan? Within Turkey itself?
      Possible. Entirely possible.
      Cause I still have troubles with Yildirim & Akar (just my opinion)

      Ministry of Communications, Ministry of Finance, Central Bank of Russia to be tested for readiness to work under conditions of war - Defense Ministry

      Russia just cleared its eurobonds outside DTC

    5. Interesting? Could that be related to Ukraine too?
      I wonder???

    6. Turkey said that it had not contacted the Syrian authorities to directly notify them of the operation.


      Story changes again

      And if Russia was coordinating the operation via Assad, why is it requesting an air plan?

    7. did anyone from Turkey say they had notified Damascus, cause pretty sure I had read Damascus was notified via Russia???

      "Turkey formally notified Russia that it had begun Euphrates Shield. “I don’t think that Russia directly supported the operation, but the offensive was certainly coordinated with it, because Turkish aircraft are involved in the offensive,” Khramchikhin explained"

      I guess that would explain the request for air plans?

      "He believes that Syria’s President Bashar Assad is not interested in Syria’s federalization, as well. “One can even imagine the possibility Ankara and Damascus entering into negotiations to prevent Syrian Kurdish autonomy from ever taking shape,” he remarks."

      It's interesting all the shifting he said/she said type stuff
      Muddies the waters quite a bit (frustrating)

  4. Penny:

    Wall construction is big bidness. Who do you think invented the modern cement modularly constructed wall? Who owns the companies who build walls all over the world? Who likes and wants walls all over the place...including between Mexico and the US?


    1. Hey GC:
      And big walls are even bigger business!

      would the answer to your questions be : israel?

      I posted this information because I'd mentioned it on numerous occasions and seemed to be the only person mentioning Turkish fortification of their border, going on for well over a year now.

      Guess it was time I did a post on that topic, alone

    2. I did a somewhat related post touching on the Lafarge company's connection to Hillary Clinton today. Lafarge manufactures and sells concrete.


    Mark Sleboda to Stratfor for internship?


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    1. Glad you posted this, confirms my suspicions on the man.

    2. Hi Rachel:
      you must dish, why were you suspicious of him?
      Myself, I wasn't that fussy on his analysis- not a source I'd every used- what raised your eyebrow about him?

    3. Tell me how it confirms whatever your suspicions? I realize there is faults with RT where Sleboda appears often on Cross Talk another program that has venom spewed at it. I may not be the most informed person however when I analize his comments I do not find him to be wrong all of the time. There is nor has been efforts made to hide his background by him. Especially concerning his military background. It seems, imho, there is an awful lot of suspicion and speculation, that word again, on so many opinion sites I read; and they are quite numerous. A final comment, one educates oneself most fully when efforts are made to gather information that is both pro and con one's own take on a topic or issue.

    4. And I am not acting as an apologist for MS. I am making a point though that many commentators say things I am not completely in agreement with. However, it is possible to gleen info from many in order to open my horizons. Even Mr. Putin has been accused of being an Atlanticist. The Saker in spite his large following and reputation is wrong sometimes. It's getting to the point were there are so many arm chair experts it rivals sports commentators. Excuse the rant.

    5. Hi Charles:

      I can't speak for Rachel but, myself I was not fussy about Mark Sleboda...

      His appearances on Cross Talk weren't anything special- I've given up completely on Cross Talk- it always felt like a limited hangout as does Mr Sleboda's commentary

      And yes it is possible to gleen information from varying sources- Heavens knows I gleen from many media news sources the world over...

      to the point where it's exhausting at times

      And I guess that's where I just moved away from Sleboda and Cross Talk... it;s enough just to do my own research

      There are times I see information only when left by others..

    6. It is called RT America, no. There are certain realities which determine content.
      Question, do you find Duran to be a source not worth time?

    7. It is called RT America, no. There are certain realities which determine content.
      Question, do you find Duran to be a source not worth time?

    8. Charles: I don't read Duran at all- can't say if it's good/bad/or anything.

      I don't read anti
      I've given up on global research and many others- I used to read quite regularly
      Sure once in a while i see something that piques my interest, but, over all - my go to places have gone away and I'm relying on my own logical thinking and ability to see through as many logical fallacies as I am capable of doing.

      I do like Katehon- It's linked here for that reason.

      I read news reports and think tank (especially the neo con ones!) reports for the most part and then try my best to figure out what's going on.. I bounce ideas off of my husband, we discuss all sorts of stuff... last night we talked about this whole russian/syria/turkey situation...

      Hubby and I are ordinary people, in an ordinary house, eeking out ordinary livings... but are both hugely interested in current events, environment and what is really going on around us.

  6. Yes, Penny, isn't that interesting. :))
    On a personal level, back when the whole Donbas thing was firing up and getting legs, I was following him on twitter.
    One day he was chirping on an on AGW and I said something to him about it being bogus scam.
    I got blocked very quickly. :)

    5th column for sure :)

    1. Hmmm... got blocked quickly eh?
      And an AGW pusher for big oil to make big profits
      as if his association with Chatham house wasn't bad enough along with all his other Atlantacist stuff

      As I said to Rachel, he was not my cup of tea- looking around at Saker's I see other commenters are saying he is always wrong.. shrugs shoulders- don't know for certain, however his latest piece was everywhere and I found that to be lacking..

  7. Buy shares in concrete companies!
    Lafarge has interests in Japan via Tetrapods.
    "Japan’s “Great Wall” and the renamed Liberal Democratic Party to the Liberal Concrete Party"

    Includes info on Clinton


    1. thanks Aferrismoon- off to read your link :)