Monday, March 2, 2009

Vince Li trial begins tomorrow

Greyhound bus murder trial set to begin Tuesday

"The man accused of stabbing and decapitating a fellow passenger aboard a Greyhound bus will face trial on Tuesday, and lawyers from both sides are expected to focus on whether he was insane at the time of the attack.

Vince Li, 40, is charged with second-degree murder. His lawyers are not disputing that he killed 22-year-old Tim McLean. Instead, they will likely question whether Li should be found criminally responsible.

If the judge agrees that Li was insane at the time of the attack, and not criminally responsible, Li could be released or hospitalized indefinitely.

That possibility has upset McLean's mother, Carol DeDelley. She wants politicians to pass "Tim's Law," which would mean anyone convicted of murder would be incarcerated for life, with no chance of parole.

"I believe there should be treatment and punishment," she said.

But Prof. Arthur Schafer, director of the Centre for Professional and Applied Ethics at the University of Manitoba, said it would be morally irresponsible to change the current law.

He said the justice system must distinguish between someone who is aware they have committed a crime, and someone who is not in control of his or her actions.

"There is a fundamental distinction between being morally and criminally responsible because you know what you're doing, and being insane, where you don't know what you are doing," he said.

"That's the basis of our criminal justice system and we can't abolish it."


  1. Penn, send me your email,and I'll tell you why I don't agree with what this mother is trying to do. It won't be published so it's safe.

    On the trial, it is going to be held at the law courts building in WPG just as it should have been all along, the trial will be heard by a judge alone and not a jury and will last for apprx. three days after which Lee will be sent to the Mental Heath Facility at Selkirk Manitoba for an indefinate period (aka the rest of his life) and placed under insane ammounts of drugs administered by insane psychiatrists who should by all rights be the patients .

    The judge is a personal friend of mine and the hearing or trial is nothing but a formality.

  2. It has been a given all along that the trial would never be anything but a formality.
    From the way the rcmp didn't appear to do much in the way of investigation. The instantaneous second degree murder charge for starters, the way it seemed Li was heavily drugged at the initial trials, and likely was heavily drugged all along, how could he be properly questioned?
    It didn't matter anyway.