Friday, August 23, 2013

Syria: Australia at UN & planning war with US- Activists smuggling samples etc.,

2 new updates below- ominous stuff

Just some quick news stories I found interesting:

Australia will lead the international debate on Syria as of Sept 1/201, when they take the helm at the UN

AS president of the UN Security Council from September 1, Australia will lead the international debate on the worsening Syrian crisis amid growing pressure on Moscow and Beijing to bring the Assad regime into line.

Australia takes the chair of the Security Council during the federal election "caretaker period", which means Kevin Rudd and Senator Carr would have to consult closely with Tony Abbott and the Coalition's foreign affairs spokeswoman, Julie Bishop.
brian left this link regarding Australian war planners in Washington

 Mr Rudd also reiterated Australia’s major alliance with the United States, where Australian military officers are working alongside the the US military in the Pentagon to help draw up war plans for an American-led intervention.
Thanks brian!

So called 'activists' are smuggling evidence of chemical weapon use out of Syria!/image/3018541700.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_475/3018541700.jpg
Female fighters in the Free Syrian Army hold their weapons along with banners as they take part in a demonstration condemning what activists say was a nerve gas attack by President Bashar al-Assad's forces in the Ghouta region east of Damascus
Female fighters of the FSA or Israeli IDF? Smart money says if these really are 'fighters' they are  Israeli soldiers. (What's with the covered faces?)

Beirut: Syrian activists say  (but are they really ?) they are smuggling out body tissue samples from victims of an alleged chemical weapons attack outside Damascus and are trying to get them to a team of United Nations inspectors staying in a hotel a few miles away.

 Only a few activists said they were confident that they had a contact who would be able to hand their samples to the UN inspectors.

 Most activists in the area who spoke said they had also prepared samples to smuggle into the capital, but had little to zero contact with the UN experts and were unable to find a way to access the monitors inside their hotel.

If the activists have little to zero contact with the UN experts as they are admitting, then their will be no samples? Unless they are bogus samples?  So called 'smuggled samples' would be useless as evidence.

An activist in Damascus who calls herself Alexia Jade confirmed that medics and activists in the suburbs have been trying to get samples out of the suburbs and were sending them to a secret location. She hinted there may be several organisations that the opposition would try to deliver the samples to, but would not give further details.
“Samples have been collected but the destination is confidential — and there may be more than one destination. The plan is to get the samples to someone who can actually do something about,” she told Reuters on Skype.
U.S. military officials have updated their options for a forceful intervention in Syria, a senior defense official told CNN on Friday.

U.S. military officials have updated their options for a forceful intervention in Syria, a senior defense official told CNN on Friday.

The changes to previous plans included updating target lists for possible airstrikes, the official said. The official cautioned that these options were updated "to give the president a current -- and comprehensive -- range of choices," but that no decision was made at a national security meeting Thursday at the White House.

The official said that while there are certain static targets such as government buildings and military installations, the forces and equipment of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad "continue to move," and thus require flexibility in planning.

No formal determination has been made on whether the Syrian government used chemical weapons

WP: U.S. naval forces are moving closer to Syria. The White House said the president would meet Saturday with his national security team to consider possible next steps by the United States. Officials say once the facts are clear, Obama will make a decision about how to proceed.

U.S. Navy ships are capable of a variety of military action, including launching Tomahawk cruise missiles, as they did against Libya in 2011.
 If the U.S. wants to send a message to Assad, the most likely military action would be a Tomahawk missile strike, launched from a ship in the Mediterranean.
 Obama also cited the need for the U.S. to be part of a coalition in dealing with Syria
And of course the US has the NATO coalition.. always on hand. Always ready to terrorize. Always bringing death, destruction and tyranny.

 Russia rejects calls for use of force on Syrian gov''t 

 Russia said that any calls or Security Council encouragement for the use of force against the Syrian government were "rejected" in light of claims of its use of chemical weapons in attacks on civilians.
Russia on Friday directly accused opposition forces of carrying out the attack, which killed hundreds of people in the region of Ghouta on the outskirts of Damascus. The Syrian opposition had accused the government of having carried out the attack, three days ago, in which chemical nerve agents were said to have been used - claims fiercely rejected by Damascus.
"The fact that agenda-driven regional mass media have begun an aggressive attack at once, as if on command, laying all responsibility on the government, draws attention," Russia's Foreign Ministry quoted spokesman Alexander Lukashevich as saying in a statement.
"It is apparently no coincidence that information like this regarding the authorities using chemical weapons has been thrown in before, including in the past days, citing some opposition sources, however it was not confirmed later, " Lukashevich said.
"All this can only lead us to think that we are dealing again with a provocation planned in advance. The fact that the criminal action near Damascus was carried out just when the mission of UN experts to investigate the statements on possible chemical weapons use there has successfully begun its work in Syria points to this," said the statement.
"Moscow thinks that it is important to hold an objective and professional investigation of what has happened
"We are urging again all those who have the opportunity to influence armed extremists to make every effort to put an end to provocations with the use of poisonous chemical substances," said the statement.


  1. quick post, hope you all find some of the news interesting

    1. Remeber that the Israelis just delt with the prisoner x scandal. In it an aussie was targeted for having leaked a big operation. In Australia you can apparently change your name every few years and thus makes for convenient passport changes. Also remeber that rudd is in the election fight with polls showing the conservative in the lead - the mining tax along with rudd china hand are not going to win him friends especially as he sees us marines deployed in Australia. Then there is the issue of the training exercise where us planes dropped bombs accidently on the reef?

      As for Saudi Arabia the internal situation there is not what it appears if you judge by the revolving door ministers - the most recent the Saudi dep.defense minister. More to the point with the us ratcheting up liquids production Saudi is being assailed by the eia and IMF. Platitudes about partnership and pegs would appear to be unfounded judging by actions - or there is an internal split in the kingdom as long rumored. TBD.

      One thing to consider is India was out today apparently cutting a deal woith Iraq to settle oil in rupee. A major no no insofar as the dollar is concerned. India is probably the biggest story never told - between their satellites, Mars mission, carrier launch, Iran port construction and of course the sub disaster. Russia and India annouced today sub construction talks and that would solidify the defense pact. Is it a coincidence the line if control is seeing massive surge of incidents?


  3. Change of Israeli quislings in Oz, Rudd is as much a traitor as the female version (I don't even remember her name) he replaced.

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    1. Julia Gillard. I feel ashamed to be part of this so called government!

  4. US readies possible missile attack on Syrian government forces

    "Despite President Obama cautioning against intervention in Syria, the Pentagon is making "initial preparations" for a cruise missile strike on Syrian government forces, according to a new report.

    Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey is expected to present options for such a strike at a White House meeting on Saturday, CBS News reported on Friday.

    President Barack Obama is under renewed pressure to take action following the emergence of footage of what appears to be the aftermath of a toxic agent attack in a Damascus suburb on Wednesday. The forces of President Bashar Assad were assaulting a rebel stronghold in the district at the time, but deny responsibility. Moscow, which has maintained close ties with the regime, called the incident a rebel "provocation" possibly designed to derail upcoming Geneva peace talks."

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  5. australia is another eg of a 'democracy' in which both major parties are servants of US imperialism and readily send troops to serve in US wars mostly in the not very pleasant position of figleaf

    1. Feel like a bloody Canadian!

      - the Thylacine

  6. US military joins Syrian rebels in march on Damascus

    "Syrian regime’s opponents, supervised by Jordanian, Israeli and American commandos have been moving towards Damascus since mid-August, according to information obtained by French “Le Figaro”.

    “The first trained in guerrilla warfare by the Americans in Jordan Syrian troops reportedly entered into action since mid-August in southern Syria, in the region of Deraa,” says the report. “A first group of 300 men, probably supported by Israeli and Jordanian commandos, as well as men of the CIA, had crossed the border on August 17.”

    The intelligence service began training rebels despite their alleged links to Al-Qaeda and other terrorist organizations.

    According to “Le Figaro”, these military troops made their way to Syria on August 17, four days before the alleged chemical attacks of Syrian government. This makes the theory of Syrian government using UN sanctioned weapons look very suspicious.

    Numerous impartial analysts also commented on a lack of necessity for Assad’s forces to carry out such an attack days after UN inspectors entered the country.

    “There are, within some of the videos, examples which seem a little hyper-real, and almost as if they’ve been set up. Which is not to say that they are fake but it does cause some concern. Some of the people with foaming, the foam seems to be too white, too pure, and not consistent with the sort of internal injury you might expect to see, which you’d expect to be bloodier or yellower,” saidStephen Johnson, an expert in weapons and chemical explosives at Cranfield Forensic Institute, in an interview with Euro News.

    If the UN experts, who are currently working in Syria, confirm the usage of chemical weapons in the ongoing conflict, one can expect another “Libyan” style scenario to be implemented in the Middle Eastern country."

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  7. there is something called "Chain of custody"

    Chain of custody (CoC), in legal contexts, refers to the chronological documentation or paper trail, showing the seizure, custody, control, transfer, analysis, and disposition of physical or electronic evidence.

    The idea behind recording the chain of custody is to establish that the alleged evidence is in fact related to the alleged crime, rather than having, for example, been planted fraudulently to make someone appear guilty.

    The chain of custody requires that from the moment the evidence is collected, every transfer of evidence from person to person be documented and that it be provable that nobody else could have accessed that evidence.

    Anyone bringing evidence to the UN inspectors, regardless of the validity or scope of that evidence, would violate the law regarding chain of custody and would not be admissable as evidence.

    Also note Scotts Law.
    An important part of the Law of evidence is that of corroboration in Scots law. This is a vital element of the law to protect the accused from unjustly being convicted. Each essential fact (facta probandum ) of a case must be corroborated by two independent pieces of evidence and one witness alone cannot corroborate an essential fact, it must be corroborated by a second independent source.

    There is also 'Burden of proof'
    "there is an implicit burden of proof on the party asserting a claim, since the default position is generally one of neutrality or unbelief."

    someone bring bibi milk with his cookies next time. he is getting irritated and sloppy.

  8. Chemical weapons as “black PR”

    "Tensions around Syria have surged amid reports of the alleged use of chemical weapons near Damascus. On August 23, UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon unveiled his decision to send head of the UN Office of Disarmament Affairs Angela Kane to Syria and called on the Syrian authorities to cooperate with the UN team investigating the incident.

    So far, there is no evidence confirming that it was indeed a chemical weapons attack - nothing except allegations by Arab TV channels that it killed between 500 and 1,200 people, something that the Syrian government vehemently denied as a yet another provocation by anti-Assad militants.

    At the UN Security Council, Russia and China blocked an attempt to lay the responsibility for the attack on the Bashar al-Assad regime and urged a thorough UN investigation into all the circumstances of the incident.

    The Russian Foreign Ministry repeated that all of the previous allegations of the same kind proved to be false. A rocket with chemical agents was fired by Syrian opposition fighters, the ministry said, citing its own sources. The ministry’s official spokesman Alexander Lukashevich said that Russia would push for a speedy inquiry, though he admitted that difficulties may arise because the “area where the incident occurred is controlled by the militants”. “We presume that the UN mission should coordinate this maneuver [investigation] with the Syrian authorities,” he said. Earlier, First UN Under-Secretary General for Humanitarian Affairs Jan Eliasson called for a halt to fighting until the investigation is completed.

    The majority of Western analysts doubt that Syrian government troops could have committed such an act. Richard Labeviere, editor-in-chief of the Defense magazine under the Higher School for National Defense and Security in France, thinks that perhaps the rebels were left with no choice but to use chemical weapons in order to capture public attention. “All the circumstances of the use of chemical weapons in Syria must be carefully examined. The issue springs up whenever the Syrian opposition grows weaker. Similar things happened in Iraq. I think that it’s part of a psychological war, an attempt to manipulate public opinion,” Labeviere said.

    Meanwhile, Western sponsors of the Syrian opposition seized the opportunity to unleash a campaign in support of “military intervention” in Syria. Turkey, Britain and France are openly calling for it. In 2011, French President Nicolas Sarkozy initiated air bombings in Libya to help the opposition topple Muammar Gaddafi.

    French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said in his latest remarks on Syria that there must be reaction with force if the Syrian government’s involvement in the chemical weapons incident was confirmed. He added that if the UN Security Council was unable to make such decisions, they would be made in a different way.

    The Russian Foreign Ministry’s spokesman Alexander Lukashevich said, commenting on Mr. Fabius’s statement, that it sounded quite odd as there was no proof that chemical weapons had been used and that even the United States avoided saying that military intervention was unavoidable.

    President Barack Obama has ordered the Department of State and intelligence agencies to collect and analyze all information about the alleged use of chemical weapons near Damascus."

    Andrey Fedyashin

    Modern Jewish zionist psyops uses multiple sources to spread their goebbelsian bs. These ops show how the ziofacist criminals on the ground are co-ordinated with the majority of western media (left, centre and right), and with their quisling guvs. It's all one big dysfunctional family.

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  9. Zionist Jewish peace:

    Death toll after Lebanon blasts climbs to 45, wounds 358 - report

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  10. Decent interview about Manning:

    Manning case: (s)he 'never had a chance to get a fair trial' - Icelandic MP

    In my opinion, Manning is a decent person who did the decent thing. The freakshow that has imprisoned Manning are the ones who should spend the rest of their lives in one of their prisons.

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  11. Syrian rebels preventing probe into alleged chemical attack - Russian FM

    "Russia's Foreign Ministry said on Friday Syria's opposition was preventing an objective investigation into allegations the Syrian government carried out a chemical weapons attack.

    "Much needed signals from the opposition, including its readiness to guarantee the safety and effective work of U.N. experts on territory controlled by militants, unfortunately are not forthcoming," the Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

    "It is directly preventing an objective investigation into the possible use of chemical weapons in Syria."

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  12. US Navy to expand its Mediterranean presence due to Syria

    "The US Navy will expand its presence in the Mediterranean with a fourth cruise-missile armed warship because of the escalating civil war in Syria, a defense official said on Friday.

    The USS Mahan had finished its deployment and was due to head back to its home base in Norfolk, Virginia, but the commander of the U. Sixth Fleet has decided to keep the ship in the region, the defense official said.

    The official, who was not authorized to speak publicly, stressed that the Navy had received no orders to prepare for any military operations regarding Syria.

    US officials are considering a range of options for responding to reports that Syria has used chemical weapons against civilians, including possible cruise missile attacks from the sea, a senior defense official told Reuters earlier."

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  13. Is it possible that rumors of us missle attack are a rebel cleanup? Why would joint chief come out and say rebels wouldn't support us policy a day before? Assad has them cornered and if roll up question turns to wmd sources and uses.

    If assad doesn't act and Russians stand aside...

  14. Here we go Penny, they're getting the cruise missles ready. Too much BS flying over the alledged use of WMDs by Syria. I'm afraid its reached critical mass. Within a month....boom! Hope I'm wrong, but, we've known for some time now, this was never going to end well for the people of Syria.

  15. (background u can see the FSA flag(3 stars) and black flag of jihad

    its also the flag of the taliban whicjh US has been fighting inn afghanistan: here these guys demand US and its cronies (international community)aid while flying a taliban flag!

  16. ritish MP: Israel gave chemicals to Syria rebels

    Aug 22, 2013

    A British parliamentarian says Israel has been giving out chemical arms to the anti-Syria militants. George Galloway, Britain’s Respect Party for Bradford West said Israel provided terrorist groups linked with al-Qaeda with chemical weapons.

    “If there’s been any use of nerve gas, it’s the rebels that used it...If there has been use of chemical weapons, it was Al Qaeda who used the chemical weapons”, Galloway said.

    “Who gave al-Qaeda the chemical weapons? Here’s my theory: Israel gave them the chemical weapons”, Galloway MP added.

    Meanwhile, media reports had it that Qatar’s Al Jazeera TV and Reuters news agency published the news of massacre in East Ghouta, Damascus “one day” before the massacre happened.

    1. “Who gave al-Qaeda the chemical weapons? Here’s my theory: Israel gave them the chemical weapons”, Galloway MP added."

      Cheers to Galloway, the man doesn't waste time beating around the bush about who is behind this war.

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    2. FSA did this. I'm relaying info got from Ziad the mentat's Syrian Perspective. They uploaded lots of vids, some of the 'aftermath' which cd be fake, but the date is one day early See on the YouTube page, 'August 20th' the claimed date of the attack was the 21st.
      The Russians are onto it.

  17. looks like they are going to move some naval/other forces in to test waters and see how Russia reacts. I don't think obummer will give the go ahead yet, but he has done some pretty dumb things in the past.

  18. Its just fiction to match up with the military tourism of Rothschilds' USrael-NATO balkanization of the middle east.

    Assad's Syrian army had nothing to do with any chemical weapons attack.

    The zionist new world order is already here. A few rough edges need to be ironed out before our serfdom is complete.

  19. I have updated the post
    The US has moved naval assets closer to Syria
    be back later!

  20. FYI recycling terrorists i think this is him at 1:15

    crisis actor?

    1. ty brian!
      so much to look at so little time
      I will have to check back in tomorrow
      stay well and safe all!

  21. Short film of child faking CW symptoms from Turkey site.

    Put it out on twitter, but blogs like yours get alot of good traffic.

    Voltaire has this:
    Sarin Gas : a new propaganda campaign against Syria

    Ck in later

    1. OMG
      that kid was pretty believable
      it is scary to think of adults manipulating children in this manner

      It is bad enough to think of the brandwashing children get via the msm.
      but for goodness sakes

  22. Syria: Soldiers find chemical agents in rebel tunnel - State TV

    "Syrian state television said soldiers found chemical agents in rebel tunnels in the Damascus suburb of Jobar on Saturday and said some soldiers were suffocating.

    "Army heroes are entering the tunnels of the terrorists and saw chemical agents," state television quoted a "news source" as saying. "In some cases, soldiers are suffocating while entering Jobar," it said.

    "Ambulances came to rescue the people who were suffocating in Jobar," it said, adding that an army unit was preparing to storm the suburb in which rebels fighting to oust President Bashar al-Assad are based.

    Syrian activists accuse Assad's forces of launching a nerve gas attack in Jobar and other suburbs before dawn on Wednesday, killing hundreds."


    There is 'proof' Syrian rebels used chemical weapons in conflict - Iran

    "Iran, the chief regional ally of Damascus, said on Saturday there is "proof" Syrian rebels used chemical weapons in their conflict with the regime of President Bashar al-Assad.

    "We are very concerned about information regarding the use of chemical weapons in Syria, and we strongly condemn the use of such weapons," foreign ministry spokesman Abbas Araqchi said, quoted by ISNA news agency.

    "There is proof terrorist groups carried out this action," Araqchi said in reference to Wednesday's allegedly deadly attacks in the Damascus area, without elaborating.

    Iran also warned against any Western military intervention in the 29-month conflict, after the United States suggested it was weighing up such a possibility."

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  23. This piece provides a fairly good synopsis of the latest zionist CW war crime against the people of Syria:

    Poisonous chemicals of Syrian crisis

    Where the article talks about the terrorists possibly initiating the attack themselves is the one area I would disagree. These terrorists are gofers of Israel, and of Israeli quislings, they follow orders and die. With all the obviously pre-planned co-ordination between the various governments, their militaries and the Jewish run msm propaganda networks, this attack was centrally planned and planned by Tel Aviv, with the rest following orders.

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    1. ty bot tak

      and everyone else..

      found this interesting, pretty sure we have talked about the Islamic IDF/NATO killers being on drugs previously

      six truckloads of this stuff!?? wtf

      "Police stopped an attempt to smuggle trailers filled with large amounts of Captagon pills into Syria Saturday, security sources told The Daily Star.

      Six trailers heading to Syria were seized by a patrol of the Internal Security Forces in the town of Saadnayel in the Bekaa Valley.

      The trailer trucks were accompanied by another vehicle, a blue Nissan Sunny, which had three Syrians in it.

      The three Syrians were identified as Abdel Rahman Khaled Srour, 21, Sabei Adnan Srour, 27 and Yehya Mahmoud al-Mkahhal, 51.

      They were all arrested.

      Captagon is a stimulant and synthetic drug that is particularly popular in the Middle East."

      I didn't even know what captagon was so I had to go and read about it

      this sounds like something right up the alley of the hired killers
      The captagon is the trade name for Fenethylline a compound instance of amphetamine

      and this is interesting

      1 - rapid health breakdown due to the inability to sleep for long periods of time.
      2 - symptoms membership in the brain disorders such as spasticity.
      3 - high blood pressure, heart rate and breathing drop.
      4 - mental deterioration and chatter, convulsions, coma and rashes.
      5 - temporal and spatial disorder, anxiety and stress.
      6 - lack of white blood cells and body ..

      the convulsions etc that the alleged chemical attack victims were having?
      could they have been drugged
      Some of the victims did look drugged
      Particularly the children that they showed as victims
      had they and others been drugged by the rebels???
      I don't know?
      Seem like quite a lot of stimulants

    2. Penny

      Mix that speed with the other psychiatric drugs and morphine based drugs the Israelis are pumping into the region and one has quite a toxic brew. Just across the Lebanese border is the HQ of the drug mafia (Israel), where most of the world's drug trafficking is run from.

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  24. Russia to build up security in Med Sea and other Russia interfax info on what they dub "The Poison Belt"

    It's google translate, hope I did it correctly.

    1. thanks Karin, I am off to see if I can find more on what is going on in the Med.
      keep me updated should you see more?

  25. FLASHBACK [2 AUG 2012] - [Poisonous vieled threat made 1 year ago by Isra-helli Jinn (Psychopath)] Israeli envoy to UN: Assad likely to use chemical weapons on his own people

    "Israeli Ambassador to the UN Ron Prosor warned the General Assembly Friday that Syrian President Bashar Assad could use chemical weapons on the Syrian people saying ...

    "For years, Assad repeatedly denied that he held chemical weapons. Surprise, surprise… last week we heard a new revelation from Syrian officials: Assad has chemical weapons – and his government is prepared to use them. The world should wake up to this dangerous reality today, not tomorrow. We should not pretend that a regime that cuts the throats of children today will not be prepared to gas them tomorrow""

    “Gas the Arabs” in Action


    Phone Intercept proves “Terrorists used Chemical Weapons in Homs”

    Two phone calls affirm the use of chemical weapons in Homs by terrorists

    Syrian Army Seizes Gas Masks 'Bound for Syrian Rebels' in Hasbaya

    Syrian soldiers find chemical agents in rebel tunnels near Damascus- state TV

    Suffocation cases among Syrian army soldiers reported as terrorists used chemical weapons in Jobar

    1. anonymous 9:25 am
      I did see a few of those stories here and there
      and now you have made them so convenient for sharing and I love that!

  26. Muchas gracias Penny.

  27. It looks like the owners of the USA are again blocking Syria's SANA website in the USA. The last couple of days I have not been able to access it. This is another example how Israel-America co-ordinates it's quislings and agents throughout the west to manipulate what people in the west see, hear, and even think.

    It is also possible this blocking of SANA is another part of escalation of the war against Syria. Preventing people getting real news is usually part of zionist/fascist war preparations so they can control the flow of info better and keep people in the dark longer.

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  28. ANNA news report debunking the recent lies by western zionist occupied guvs, and the Jewish run msm about CW in Syria. With English subtitles.

    Правда об операции в Восточной Гуте и информационном вбросе 21 августа

    The truth about the operation in Eastern Guta and information "stuffing" on August 21

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  29. Молния: В Джобаре найдена лаборатория боевиков по производству химоружия

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    Lightning: In the lab found Dzhobare fighters for the production of chemical weapons

    "Lightning: In Dzhobare, in the liberated territory from the militants, who had just found a warehouse with chemical reagents and materials, and laboratory terrorist chemical weapons production. Exclusive photos and videos we have, let's put them to tape the agency a few hours. Militants apparently did not have time to use this chemical weapons, but on August 21 hastened to announce its application is in Dzhobare (in the early hours of "stuffing" disinformation).

    Day 4 in the WHO Dzhobare is successful. At this point, only one badly wounded soldier (a bullet in the head). He was wounded in the house where they were killed five militants. According to intercept Al Nusra Front announced three of his field commanders of cowardice and treason, is that they have handed over 2 km. Front and sentenced them to death. In response, militants accused of Dzhobara Bewick Zamalki of cowardice and failure to provide them with assistance. Familiar BMP gunner shot 15-17 militants, one could answer from an RPG."

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  30. No time right now to check newer links contributed, but I did find this at Global Research from al-monitor

    Russian President, Saudi Spy Chief Discussed Syria, Egypt

    I've been dying to know what was said in that meeting so I will disect each word :)

    Penny, it's so great to have your blog to drop off into and get other info found between your astute postings !

    Opps, just pulled up SyriaPerspective and he has info on the same talks ?
    Yikes.. well, I'm leaving this link here for now and will read his also.
    check in again when able

    1. Penny, it's so great to have your blog to drop off into and get other info found between your astute postings !


      karin it is so great to have commenters such as yourself that help fill in the blanks I couldn't possibly fill
      so thanks to you and everyone else who reads and comments :)

  31. Za Kaddafi: РФ предоставила данные о причастности сирийской оппозиции к химатаке

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    Za Kaddafi: Russia has provided evidence of the involvement of the Syrian opposition to himatake

    "Text translation: We now turn to the developments in Syria and the consequences of a chemical attack in the vicinity of Damascus. The Russian delegation presented at a meeting of the UN Security Council, which took place the day before yesterday, and documentary evidence and footage satellite imagery combat zones, including Huta district. This was reported by the Lebanese newspaper "Al-Safir".

    These documented evidence that the two locally-made rockets, seasoned chemical that were launched from the area of ​​the Duma. This area is under the control of militants from the Syrian opposition group "Brigade of Islam."

    The Russian delegation presented a version of this at a meeting of the UN Security Council. While the Americans have not put forward for consideration to any evidence which would refute the Russian proof. Because, according to people familiar with the Lebanese newspaper, the analysis of data from U.S. satellites also leads to similar conclusions: they are representatives of the Syrian opposition fired two missiles.

    Air date August 23, 2013.

    Mohamed Balut - the newspaper "As-Safir": Why the West and America have a deep lack of confidence in front of the UN Security Council accusing the Syrian leadership in the use of chemical weapons in Gotha, reg. Damascus?

    Translation from:

    A slave sources suggest that the delegation of the United States and the West have an idea about the chemical. attack and can not spread the official. BUT Russia to submit documents and images from its communication satellites from the area of doing battle in the area of Gotha."

    (note: this will be a 3 parter, with my own comments in an additional post - вот так)

  32. 2nd part:

    "Glish delegation presented the documented facts, during a meeting of the UN Security Council yesterday (22.08.2013). During the meeting, the Americans did not file any documents contradicting the Russian documents, given that U.S. satellites have reached similar conclusions and evidence, because the Americans knew that the "opposition" fired rockets Gotha.

    The representative of Syria, Bashar Jaafari UN urgently returned from Damascus to New York to present themselves with physical evidence corroborating evidence Russian. According to informed sources, Western containment directly towards the Syrian leadership, it insists on an extended investigation. This is due to the fact that Russia has extended the image, where it is clear that the missiles were launched from the area around the Duma about 1:35 minutes night 21.08.2013. It was noted that the Western countries did not resort to the adoption of its specific sources, and relied on the statements of the leaders of the Syrian opposition coalition, which shifted the responsibility to the Syrian authorities.

    Russian said that two missiles from local production, bearing the chemicals out of the area controlled by the "left al-Islam" ("battalion al Islam"), the leader of this gang is Zahran alyush. This "battalion" is one of the leading forces bandit bastards in Gotha, in kotoromnaschityvaetsya about 25,000 heads, geeks - "fighters" and distributed among the battalion ARBIGNY, Zamalka, Sacbe, Kafr Batna and Al Ain Tarma Miadamiya (المعضمية). The missiles were intended as a riposte to the operation "of the shield." This major military operation Syrian Army spends on the outskirts of the capital, from the beginning of the conflict. One of the rockets landed in Dzhobar, near the old city, and the second missile hit the area between Irbin and Zamalka.

    Syrian Army artillery began shelling at 1:00 am, while a column of tanks and infantry, were ready to move, scheduled for 6:00 am about Dzhobar, particularly towards "dzhabhat Fatah Al Asima" ("open the front capital "). In this area, there were more than 13 battalions, united in the region and placed themselves under the command of "dzhabhat en Nusra" to deal with the Syrian Army. It also includes battalions:
    - "Harun al-Rashid"
    - "Al Haq safe" ("Swords of Truth")
    - "Al mahadzharin" ("immigrants") - "Ansar" ("support")
    - "Abu zyr Ghaffari"
    - "Kataeb Isa ibn Maryam" ("Jesus son of Mary Brigade")
    - "Sultan Muhammad Al Fateh" (Sultan muammed Conqueror ")
    - "Gift sham" ("shield Damascus")
    - "Shahada dzhobar" ("martyrs dzhobara) and
    - "Majid Al Khalyaf" ("glory of the Caliphate")."

  33. 3rd part:

    "According to sources in contact, the forces of "dzhabha Fatih Al Asima" wanted to attack the capital, who are fighting on the front lines in front Dzhobar, began to move away from high-rise buildings near the Abbasid bus station, and at the end of the street Faris al-Khoury, after the Army's artillery attack to them and to the missile with him.otravlyayuschimi substances (ie, from 1:00 to 1:35 am). At the time, were gathered force "left al Islam" ("Brigade of Islam") in the Duma, which has the largest number of goals for geeks in Gotha.
    The source explains the withdrawal rate - a withdrawal of "opposition" bastards from the front line, so that as little as possible to incur losses with respect to the number of civilian deaths.
    According to sources in contact indicated that the Syrian army ahead of a military operation to seize the capital, which had been prepared and intended bastards. The purpose of the operation:
    - To enter into the capital through the area Meydan
    - The army to besiege the capital to the south side of the Hajar Aswad (Black Stone), Ielda forces and Al Kadam 2 Motto: second and fourth, that relate to the "free army"
    - To isolate it from other units stationed on the front part of the district Dzhobar, holding it in a vise.
    It was assumed that the chemical rocket attacks and claims of an international investigation team to come to the region of action Syrian Army, the Syrian military operations stop at all costs.

    Syrian human rights observers noted that Syrian troops continued pressure on militants bastards in Gotha, where it deposited targeted air strikes and artillery shelling. Continuing:
    - Syrian national coalition has accused the Syrian army in the use of chemical weapons when it bombed the accumulation of gangs bastards.
    He newly introduced number of massacre victims, noting that the number was 170. (More on page 17 in the report of the United Nations).

    The United Nations announced that Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon made ​​a formal request to the Syrian government to the International Commission of Inquiry on the use of chemical weapons based in Damascus, is to visit Gotha. (Ie stop fighting it!? ?)

    In Washington, State Department spokesman said the United States Jane stuffer:
    - At the moment we are unable to definitively distinguish between the use of chemical weapons in the attack, done in Syria - continued:
    - President Barack Obama has ordered the security services, as soon as possible to gather additional information about the allegations of the attack, which occurred near Damascus.
    She added:
    - After yesterday's events we focus every minute of every day to do everything we can to establish the facts.
    She confirmed:
    - If the Syrian Army actually used chemical weapons, it will be addressed by the United States as "a blatant escalation."

    The Minister of Foreign Affairs John Kerry announced talks with their counterparts in Europe and the Middle East in order to better understand what happened and to discuss "the best steps to respond to the incident"

    Translated from Arabic ISNA"

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    1. I read this all yesterday and it was very good stuff, hope everyone took the time to read it?

  34. This is the first time I've seen a description of what the Russian evidence was. One wont see this described by the Jewish run msm. It looks like the Americans, and the rest of the Israeli quisling guvs, didn't present anything to the UN that could be even remotely classified as evidence, and that the Russian material essentially caught the turds off guard. Never the less, like all good zionist tools, they are ignoring the evidence, and are pressing ahead with Israel's war without the UN. Or at least making a show of doing this.

    Meanwhile, Syria continues to clear further areas of zionazi merc & dupe infestation.

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  35. I think this is one very good reason why Israel has been unable to get, or risk, American direct intervention in Syria. I suspect a similar poll in European countries would result in even less enthusiasm for an escalation of Israel's war against Syria.

    As Syria war escalates, Americans cool to U.S. intervention: Reuters/Ipsos poll

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Americans strongly oppose U.S. intervention in Syria's civil war and believe Washington should stay out of the conflict even if reports that Syria's government used deadly chemicals to attack civilians are confirmed, a Reuters/Ipsos poll says.

    About 60 percent of Americans surveyed said the United States should not intervene in Syria's civil war, while just 9 percent thought President Barack Obama should act.

    More Americans would back intervention if it is established that chemical weapons have been used, but even that support has dipped in recent days - just as Syria's civil war has escalated and the images of hundreds of civilians allegedly killed by chemicals appeared on television screens and the Internet..."

    Apparently the Jewish run media will need more time to talk the goys into being accessories to war crimes - this time around - still. That it was reported on at all (in the west) could also mean there is still some resistance to "hot war" in Syria among the western fascist oligarchy.

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  36. found this item on the childen in the gas attack pictures:
    Arabi Souri shared المفكر القططي's photo.
    Some pictures of the children killed by 'Sarin chemical gas' in Ghouta (#Damascus Countryside) are for children kidnapped from #Latakia countryside and their families recognized them.
    #Syria #Wahhabism #Alqaeda #FSA #Nusra_Front #Muslim_Brotherhood
    this needs further investigation

  37. chances of Aus involvement in another war

    1. Perhaps the intervention will be that ZATO wants more forces there for when things get hot in Lebanon. Deter Russia. The other possibility is a build-up for some "needed" action in the Sinai or Suez Canal.

      The whole thing in the Western media reads like one big psy-op. Not that they aren't crazy and desperate enough to try it, but still ...


    2. Paul: I pretty well think the media is always reading like one big psyop

  38. Further details of the capture of terrorist CW materials:

    Syrian rebels manufactured chemical weapons outside Damascus

    "The Syrian military have discovered a warehouse with chemical agents in a suburb of Damascus. Correspondent of the Al-Ihbariya Syrian information channel Yara Saleh who was among the journalists who inspected the site of the scary find has given an exclusive interview to The Voice of Russia. She says that the discovered warehouse was at the same time a laboratory where shells were stuffed with poisonous chemicals.

    The Syrian military found chemical weapons in the rebels’ tunnel located in the Jobar suburb of Damascus. Later the Syrian state TV showed the discovered poisonous agents and medical drugs.

    Journalist Yara Saleh of the Al-Ihbariya Syrian information channel provided The Voice of Russia with more details about this discovery.

    “The rebels launched two missiles filled with poisonous gas in the Jobar neighbourhood which caused Syrian soldiers’ nausea and asphyxia.

    Some time later when the Syrian army managed to take that suburb by storm they found the warehouse and laboratory where shells were stored and stuffed with poisonous agents. Boxes with new gas masks were also found, they carried labels ‘Made in US’. The fact that the rebels did not use those gas masks proves that they had not been attacked with any poisonous gases.

    Two glass vessels with labels ‘Made in Saudi Arabia’ were also found there. Weapons and explosives made in Saudi Arabia were found in Syria in the past as well. Experts will determine the contents of those vessels.

    In addition, they found plastic vessels containing unidentified chemicals, some strange white powder and a lot of various explosives and munitions.

    The Syrian government is concerned that the rebels might have more stocks of such chemical agents that they could use against civilians.”

    On the 21st of August 2013 several western and Arab TV channels reported that chemical agents had been used in the Damascus suburbs of Ain Tarma, Zamalka and Jobar. According to the media, between 20 and 625 people died as a result of an attack with the use of shells containing the sarin nerve gas.

    Representatives of the opposition claim that it was the Syrian army that used chemical weapons. A spokesman for the Syrian government has announced that this statement is a far cry from reality and is aimed at disrupting the UN experts’ work.

    Russia has announced that, according to its information, on the 21st of August chemical agents were used in the suburbs of Damascus by the opposition units and not by President Bashar al-Assad’s army. Accusations against the government troops are based on unverified information.

    On the 21st of August the UN Security Council held an extraordinary meeting and called for a thorough investigation of the reports about the tragedy in the suburbs of Damascus. Russia shares the view that a comprehensive investigation is indispensable. It can be carried out by the UN experts already stationed in Syria."

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  39. UN experts will not go to Aleppo for security reasons - source

    "...“There is nobody to talk with there because dozens of uncontrolled groups are operating there”, Angela Kane said..."

    But the western Jewish media and quisling guvs will probably spin the UN reasons as "Assad wont let the UN team visit the area".

    Russia warns against military intervention in Syria

    I like the use of the word "sponsors" in his statement. It is obvious the terrorists are controlled by the west and are their flunkies. Good to see this view now being expressed in the diplomacy. It removes more of the wiggle room for the zionists attacking Syria to claim they are not behind the war crimes happening there.

    Obama a Bush clone in drive for Syrian invasion - Pushkov

    “Obama is restlessly heading towards war in Syria like Bush was heading towards war in Iraq. Like in Iraq, this war would be illegitimate and Obama will become Bush’s clone,” said Pushkov."

    Obama has been a "bush clone" all along, just like Clinton regime had also been a "bush clone" back in the 90's. That's the way Jewish zionists and their NWO associates work western politics. The public gets a face to vote for, but absolutely no say in the policies - which remain the same fascist rubbish no matter which one of the clones are [s]elected.

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  40. Somewhat off-topic, but I found this very interesting:

    Google and the NSA: Who’s holding the ‘shit-bag’ now?

    It's trendy slough off Assange, but this article he wrote about Google being an extension of the US state dept. and the spy agencies is worth a read. What many of us have long guessed, Assange provides some proof of Google being a tool of the power structure. He names the people involved. One particular character named Cohen is worth much further study. The guy is "liaison", a go between. Though Assange doesn't claim this, the guy is probably one of Israel's enforcers, who see to it that members of the US regime follow zionist policy, and keep the zpc hierarchy (zionist power configuration - term coined by James Petras) informed and up to date on their quisling's work. The western governments are full of these Israelis co-ordinating zionist policy among the colonies.

    Also see:

    Google’s agenda inextricable from US Government’s – Julian Assange

    What Google does for the western security establishment, "Microsoft, Yahoo, Facebook, Apple, PalTalk, YouTube, Skype and AOL", likely Twitter, Sun (who did CIA work in the 70's) and probably others are also doing. I'm also sure each one of these outfits has their own "Cohens" keeping them on track.

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  41. Dave McGowan has referred to Obama as 'black bush'
    It has always stuck in my mind
    So much for the hope and change

  42. Well it looks like the onslaught will begin. The US is saying it matters not what the UN finds, "it's too late". Like they even bloody well cared. If this doesn't convince the few idiots who really believe the Assad would gas his own ppl just as the UN arrives that this is nothing but an utter false flag by the 'rebels' nothing will.

    Just looking over comments at various new sites reveals the vast majority of posters see all these lies for what they are - massive steaming piles of bovine excrement, grade A!

    Also, I have noticed quite a few forums experiencing 'trouble'. CBC for instance has been out all day for me.

    The US/Israel is going to do something terrible. Soon. It's truly heartbreaking for all of the poor humans left in Syria. My gods... what are they thinking?


    1. Buffy
      glad to see you around :)
      So many are aware of the lies, but, since our government does not represent us????
      They will follow the agenda laid out for them by those they really serve
      It will soon be election time and I am not bothering to vote for any of the oppisames
      I wonder if the local propaganda outlet will carry some letters to the editor regarding the sham of the elections

      The illusion of choice and representation

  43. Two from Cartalucci:

    Defeated NATO Dangerously Desperate in Syria
    Did the West Gas Thousands to Rescue Failed Syrian War?

    "As far back as 2007, it was a documented fact that the West, including the United States and its allies Saudi Arabia and Israel, conspired to use terrorists drawn from the ranks of the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda in an attempt to overthrow the governments of Iran and Syria.

    Starting in 2011, this conspiracy was catapulted into all out war - albeit behind the tenuous smokescreen of "pro-democracy activists" and the so-called "Free Syrian Army" fighting for "freedom" within and along Syria's borders.

    Not only has this conspiracy been exposed, but it has categorically failed. The Syrian government has routed even the most dug-in terrorist proxies, making irreversible gains against a clearly depleted enemy. While the US continuously threatens to "arm the opposition," it is a fact that any and all weapons, cash, and support the US had, it has already sent over the last 3 years. This includes untold millions in cash, and literally thousands of tons of weaponry airlifted by the US and UK. The US and its regional allies have also scoured the global extremist networks they have built up over decades for every last fighter they could possible find - all to no avail..."

    Then enter the Jewish zionist CW "big lies".


    "Doctors" Behind Syrian Chemical Weapons Claims are Aiding Terrorists

    "The "evidence" upon which the West is propping up its narrative of the Syrian government using chemical weapons against large numbers of civilians hinges so far entirely on claims made by "Doctors Without Borders."

    To begin with, Doctors Without Borders is fully funded by the very same corporate financier interests behind Wall Street and London's collective foreign policy, including regime change in Syria and neighboring Iran. Doctors Without Borders' own annual report (2010 report can be accessed here), includes as financial donors, Goldman Sachs, Wells Fargo, Citigroup, Google, Microsoft, Bloomberg, Mitt Romney's Bain Capital, and a myriad of other corporate-financier interests. Doctors Without Borders also features bankers upon its Board of Advisers including Elizabeth Beshel Robinson of Goldman Sachs.

    Complicating further Doctors Without Borders so-called "independ" and "aid" claims is the fact that their medical facilities are set up in terrorist held regions of Syria, especially along Syria's northern border with NATO-member Turkey..."

    I think the name Dr. Mengeles Without Borders would better suit this fraudulent outfit. What sort of doctors would conspire with war criminals who kidnap children in order to sadistically kill them with toxins so they can blame the Syrian guv and get a massive increase in the killing going even further. And all for Israel.

    One wonders if their services to Israel are limited to only helping the sods with their war crimes. Are these Dr Mengeles also helping the Jewish mafia with their illegal human organ gathering ops? It's a lucrative business of just the sort they are well qualified, mentally, morally and professionally, for, to help out in. They would be the ideal front for those crimes.

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    1. I was once fooled by Doctors without Border, but, no more
      Just another useless NGO

  44. elections approaching, i tweeted the Australian Greens:

    @SusanDirgham @Greens @senatormilne @sarahinthesen8 will Greens please respond to this issue(ie Syria): moreurgent than gay sex and rabbits
    they finally replied:
    Greens ‏@Greens 49m
    @briansouter1 Hi there, thanks for asking. Senator Milne's statement:
    this statement puts the blame on syria russia and china and makes no mention of the jihadis:
    Greens Leader's statement on Syria
    26 Aug 2013 | Christine Milne
    Foreign Affairs
    Australian Greens Leader Senator Christine Milne has expressed her horror at the violence in Syria and has urged the international community to work for a diplomatic resolution to the on-going conflict.

    "We must first establish the facts which is why the Greens support the Government's call for full access for the United Nations, including weapons inspectors, into Syria. We need to be fully informed so as to avoid Australia and other nations making the same mistakes as in previous conflicts," said Senator Milne.

    "We welcome news today that UN inspectors are being allowed to inspect the site of the chemical attacks. Full access by the United Nations and international aid organisations is critical to getting to the truth of the recent horrific chemical attacks. The UN presence will also act as a deterrent to any further such unspeakable atrocities."

    "With Australia assuming the Presidency of the United Nations Security Council on 1 September it is our responsibility to work with the international community to pressure Syria and its backers, Russia and China, into engaging in renewed diplomatic efforts and the protection of civilian population in Syria," Senator Milne concluded.

    no mention of US or saudi or qatar etc role let alone the jihadis.
    It focuses on syria and its allies.
    The 'international community' ,of course, consists of politicians of USA UK Francef(aka FUKUSA) and other servant states. Are Greens that green?

    some of my responses:
    1. brian souter ‏@briansouter1 12m
    @Greens @senatormilne thanks for the statement #syria but itignores entirely the present of US backed jihadis(1)

    2brian souter ‏@briansouter1 12m
    @Greens @senatormilne here is president Assads most recent interview (2) #syria

    3. brian souter ‏@briansouter1 9m
    @senatormilne my impression is @Greens policy is identical to labor! blames syria: heres MaireadMaguire
    will they get back to me?

    1. no they won't brian
      no courage
      as Assad said, no leaders all politicians


    What the papers say....but Cameron (like Hague) ignores the evidence on one side and lack of it on the other and is itching to get bombing. Why do we tolerate this?

    1. Why do we tolerate this?
      because we are lazy?
      Not all of us of course but far to many of
      because we are 'mind controlled' from school on with the main indoctrination and that is the false 'appeal to authority'
      when our mantra, our mind set should be to reject or question authority

  46. An opinion was raised about Australia being a corporation under US. US may supply what Australia needs but is that all. Know more about this issue at